Hi Losties,
The ODI and Karen examine the episode He's Our You.
Since many of you emailed us and said that you liked the two new segments in the podcast we have decided to make them a regular part of the podcast. So once again the recap of Episode 5x10 He's Our You starts with our "Initial Thoughts in a Flash" and ends with "Vozzek's Final Thoughts" segment.
We cover all of the key points, the easter eggs and of course the shocking twist with Young Ben being shot by Sayid.
After the recap there is a little preview of Episode 5x11, but the preview portion is followed by an special Extended Season Finale Spoilers segment.
So yes with all of these segments in the podcast, this is a Super-Sized version of the podcast.
The podcast was posted on iTunes earlier today, but for those of you that can not access it there, below is an audio player with a download link.
Hope you all enjoy!!
NOTE: Spoilers/preview segment starts at the 92 Minute mark this week
ODI LOSTcast 38 - Epi 5x10 Recap and 5x11 Preview
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March 31, 2009
March 30, 2009
The ODI Lostcast chats with Eric Lange.
Hi LOST fans!
A couple of days ago The ODI and Karen were joined by new LOST cast member Eric Lange who plays the mysterious and infamous Dharma member Radzinsky!!
We chatted about his career, how he got the role on LOST, being a fan of the show, and he also provided us with his thoughts and theories on what is happening and even answered several fan questions.
Thanks to all the fans who sent in questions and to Eric for joining us!
For some reason when recording the interview some audio distortion occurred and you can hear a slight echo when Karen or Eric speak. When we recorded there was no echo but some how there is. With help from Thirty-Fiver and some audio editing it is not too bad and it actually depends on how you are listening. We apologize in advance if it is bad on your end, but for the most part it turned out well.
The interview is of course available on iTunes, but for those that can not access iTunes here is an audio player with a download link.
Thanks for listening.Hope you all enjoy!!
NOTE: Some minor spoilers are discussed starting at the 47 minute mark.
ODI LOSTcast 37 - Interview with Eric Lange (Radzinsky)
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March 28, 2009
He's Our You.
Let's talk about LOST! He's Our You.
A Chicken coop. Tikrit Iraq.
A man pulls a young boy out of the house in anger, “You are not a child anymore! Act like a man! You must kill one!”
The boy doesn’t want to.
The man says, “You must do as your father asks.”
He wants the boy to listen to what he’s telling him.
The man gives the boy a butcher’s clever and tells the boy, “You must kill one of them. You will stay outside until you do!”
The boy stands alone staring into the coop. A younger boy comes over and puts his hand on the shoulder of the other boy. He makes a trail with the seed bait, catches a chicken and breaks its neck. He gives the dead chicken to the older boy. The man praises the older boy, thinking he did the killing, “Good for you. You did it.”
The boy admits it wasn’t he who did it.
The disappointed man says, “Well, At least one of you will be a man.”
He looks into the eyes of the younger boy, “Well done, Sayid.”
Sayid stands in his cell; notes the camera and its blinking red light.
Phil sits in front of the video monitoring desk cleaning his gun. Young Ben comes in to bring Sayid another sandwich; chicken salad this time. Sayid hasn't been eating.
Phil doesn’t think it’s the menu, “He’s not eating. Save yourself the trouble kid.”
Ben-"But Horace told me to.”
Phil wonders, “Why does he care so much? The guy’s a Hostile.”
Ben- “That doesn’t mean he’s not hungry.”
Whatever. Phil okay’s the kid going in.
Young Ben enters the “Authorized Personnel Doors” into the cell area.
Ben tells Sayid he brought him a sandwich. Sayid takes the plate. Ben also gives him a book that he’s read twice already, “It's good.” {A Separate Reality}
Sayid-“Thank you.”
Ben asks if Richard sent him, “Richard. He’s your leader. Right.”
Sayid nods to note the camera that’s watching them.
Ben-“It’s just a camera. They can see, but they can’t hear. Four years ago I ran away into the jungle and Richard found me. I said I wanted to leave that I wanted to join you. So I’ve been patient. And if you’re patient too, I think I can help you.” {Making deals already?!}
Moscow.
A man carrying a paper bag hurries inside the hallway. He puts the bag down and runs into an apartment. {Through a few doors} He is running from someone. He chain locks the door and puts his ear to the door to listen. The man opens an armoire, tosses stuff out of the way to reveal a safe. He unlocks the safe by entering numbers on the keypad. {Daylight} Sayid enters and pulls a gun on the man. The man reveals a huge wad of money and offers it to Sayid. Sayid shoots him 2x. {Looks at his hand and head.}. Sayid heads down the stairs. {It's Daylight.}
Night. {Snow.}
Outside, Sayid dressed in black, enters large gates with monogrammed B on them.
He meets up with Ben. {Sayid passed that car on the street.} Sayid tells Ben the guy tried to bribe him, of course it didn’t work.
Sayid asks, “Where to now?”
Ben- “Nowhere. You’re done.”
Ben tells him “We’re done. Andropov was the last one. You’ve taken care of everyone who posed a threat to your friends.” {To his friends- Ben doesn't say "to you" or "to you and your friends"}
They look into each other's eyes.
Ben- “It’s been a pleasure working with you, Sayid.” And he walks away.
Sayid is angry and stunned, “So that’s it? I killed all those people for you, and now you’re just walking away.”
Ben- “You didn’t kill them for me, Sayid. You’re the one that asked for their names. There’s no one else in Widmore’s organization that we need to go after. Congratulations. Mission accomplished.”
Sayid asks sadly, almost sounding lost, “What do I do now?’”
Ben- "I supposed you should go live your life. You’re free, Sayid.”
Un-Free Sayid sits in his cell.
Radzinski unlocked the cell to let Horace the mathematician in. {Both men wear glasses} Horace, who’s packin tin snips, asks Sayid to, “Put out your hands.” After slight hesitation Sayid does. Horace snips off his plastic cuffs.
Sayid- “Thank you.”
Horace is happy to “hear” his voice, “I’m Horace. Now’s the part where you tell me your name.” Sayid doesn’t speak. Horace needs him to tell him what he was doing out in that jungle.
Radzinski interjects, “Ask him about the model.”
Horace tells Radzinski, “I got this.”
Horace continues “Those handcuffs. Are you having some kind of problem with your people? Because either you’re in some kind of disagreement, which makes me wanna help you, or you’re a spy trying to infiltrate us. So which is it?”
Sayid is silent.
Horace removes his glasses, “OK. I’m gonna give you an hour to decide whether you wanna talk to me. But if decide you don’t want to, then I’m gonna have to take this to the next level.”
They exit the cell.
Bacon {5 pieces-looks like a temple, "Asian or Buddhist character"} burns on the stove.
Juliet stares out the window.
LaFleur dressed in his Dharma jumpsuit removed the burning bacon that Juliet “forgot” about.
He asks her what’s on the TV.
They see from their window Kate and Jack across the way.
LaFleur- “Aahh.”
Juliet-“It's over, isn’t it?”
What’s over?
Juliet- “This. Us. Playing house. All of it. I never actually thought they’d come back.”
James feels “So they’re back. Nothin’s changed.”
Juliet-“What if Sayid tells them who he is.”
James- “Sayid aint sayin nothing.”
Juliet is worried. James tells her he has this under control. There's a knock at the door.
James answers it, “Morning H.” {Horace}
Horace shares with Jim he just spoke to the prisoner, “We have a problem.” Uh Oh!
The prisoner hasn’t said anything; which is what worries Horace. {Screw that! No news is good news! Lol} Horace needs to find out why he violated the truce, “Why the hell he would come into our territory. I’m just gonna have to have Oldham do his thing on em.”
Jim- “That psychopath! No way.”
Horace asks what choice does he have. Worried LaFleur wants to have a go at him, alone.
Horace-“Be my guest, but I’m telling ya man, he is not gonna talk.”
LaFleur feels, “Oh, he’ll talk to me.”
LaFleur heads down to Dharma Security. He passes by Phil at the monitor desk and tells him to take his lunch.
Phil- “You going in there alone?”
LaFleur- “Take your lunch, Phil.”
Yes sir.
Sawyer sees Sayid standing against the cell wall. He asks him how he’s doing.
Sayid shares with him, “A 12 year old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I’m doing?”
Sawyer-“Sweet kid, huh?”
Sayid wonders, “How can you live with him here?"
Sawyer- “Cause I aint got a choice.”
Sayid-“Is that so?”
Sawyer- “Let’s see how you feel after three years of living in the 70’s. Lucky for you I spent that time getting myself in a position to save your ass.” {So, Sawyer knew this was coming?} Sawyer picks the key to unlock the cell. Sawyer tells Sayid he’s sorry and head butts him. This is to make “them” believe that Sayid didn’t give up his confession easily.
Sayid-“What confession?”
Sawyer makes up a story that Sayid was trying to defect, “You were gonna offer some Intel on the Others in exchange for living with us.”
Sayid asks him why would he want to do that.
Sawyer- “What the hell else am I supposed to do with you?”
Sayid- “Let me go.” Sawyer can’t just let him go because these people trust him. He shares with Sayid he’s built a pretty good life here. If lets him go, “All that goes away. So you got yourself a choice, Chief. Either you cooperate and join the party in Dharmaville or you’re on your own.”
Sayid- “Then I guess I’m on my own.”
Hurley delivers some fresh off the griddle breakfast food to Jack and Kate’s table. He tells them not to forget trying the dippin sauces they really bring out the ham. {Kate is half in/Half out of her Dharma jumpsuit again.}
Hurley asks what’s going on with Sayid. Jack doesn’t know anything yet. Kate gets a bit anxious because she knew he was at Sawyers last night.
Jack- “He told me to leave him alone and let him do his job.”
Hurley-“And you’re going to?”
Yep.
Kate says she’ll talk to Juliet; see what she can tell her. Hurley questions if Sawyer didn’t tell her anything why would Juliet. He feels Juliet wouldn’t say anything because she lives together with Sawyer, not as roommates, “You know, together like you guys were. I thought it was kinda obvious. Who couldn’t see that coming?” {Who?} Hurley leaves to go make more waffles.
Kate asks Jack if he knew.
Yep, he did.
Sayid relaxes in his cell. Keys jingle.
Roger Linus enters the area to mop up.
Roger talks to Sayid. “You know what I can’t figure out…is how the hell you got caught. You Hostiles are supposed to be the kings of the jungle. How dumb are you that you got captured by these idiots. Hahaha.”
Sayid still relaxing on the cot, “And yet you’re the one who mops up after them.”
Roger changes his tune, “Yeah well, we’ll see how cute you are when Oldham gets done with you, Pal.”
Young Ben enters carrying a tray. He is obviously frightened by his father. Roger asks the boy what the hell he’s doing there.
Young Ben replies nervously, “I was bringing you a sandwich.”
Roger scoffs that Ben never made him a sandwich in his life. Ben nervously stumbles over his words trying to tell his dad that he made one for himself and he’d bring dad one. Sayid watches. Roger tells the boy not to lie then he grabs Ben and throws him up against the bars of the cell. Ben admits to making the sandwich for “him” {Sayid} Nobody told him to do that.
Young Ben cries, “I just thought that…”
Roger tells Ben to “go home….I’ll tell you what to think.”
Ben leaves.
Roger tosses the tray and leaves, locking the door behind him.
Sayid in his yellow tee shirt continues to build a better world. He is working construction in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.
Sayid hears someone behind him. It’s Ben.
Sayid asks Ben how he found him.
Ben- “I looked.”
Ben reveals to him John Locke is dead.
Sayid looks surprised.
Ben- “I think he was murdered.” {Really?!}
Sayid- “Why would anyone kill him?”
Ben- “I’d say it was retribution for the work you and I have been doing.”
Ben tells Sayid he’s in danger. After all if Ben can find him so can the people that found Locke. “The same people who, even as we speak are sitting outside Hugo’s Mental Institution.”
Sayid- “They’re watching him?”
Yep. A man in a sedan had been there all week just waiting, presumably waiting for Sayid or Ben to show their faces. Sayid figures Ben came all that way to suggest to him that he kill this man.
Ben-“You don’t want to?”
Sayid- “What makes you think I want to?”
Ben shares, to put it simply, “You’re capable of things most other men aren’t. Every choice you’ve made in your life, whether it was to murder or to torture, it hasn’t really been a choice at all has it? It’s in your nature. It’s what you are! You’re a killer, Sayid.”
Sayid looks right in Ben’s eyes and says, “I’m not what you think I am. I don’t like killing.”
In that case, Ben apologizes, “I was mistaken about you.”
Ben walks away.
Sayid is in his cell. LaFleur, Radzinski, Phil and security guys enter the cell. Le Fleur tells Sayid it’s his last chance, “You got anything to say?”
Apparently he's got nothing to say so LaFleur zaps him with the zapper!
LaFleur tells security to take him to Oldham; they cuff Sayid. You can see LaFleur’s troubled.
A Dharma van pulls up to a tee-pee.{Sweat lodge} an old Victrola plays a 78rpm record. {‘I Can’t Give You Anything But Love, baby’ is the song.} Prayer flags are hung.
Horace calls out to Oldham and asks if “we’re” ready.
Sayid whispers to LaFleur, “Who is that man?”
LaFleur informs him, “He’s our you.”
Oldham uses an eye dropper to drop the liquid drug onto a sugar cube. {Is Sayid a horse?! Lol} Sayid won’t open his mouth to ingest the sugar drug so Oldham has security put him in the restraints. Sayid puts up a fight but is restrained by being chained/strapped to a tree. {Yep, Horse. Lol. BTW, they remove his cuffs.}
LaFleur looks concerned.
Oldham tells Sayid not to worry, “They’re for your protection. There are side effects to what I’m giving you.”
Oldham tells the guys to “Open his mouth.”
Phil and Radzinski pry open Sayid’s mouth and force him to ingest the sugar drug. Oldham peacefully tells Sayid, “Don’t be afraid. Just turn your mind off. Let it take effect.”
Sayid tries to break free.
Oldham- “It’s beyond your control. So fighting it is a poor use of your energies. You see, whether you struggle or not one thing’s for sure, friend, you will tell us the truth.”
It's night on the dock. {Note boat named Illusion. I friggin LOVE that!} This is the night Ben tells gun toting Sun about a woman who going to tell them how to get back to the island. Kate says this is insane, calls them crazy, yada, yada, yada… Sayid walks away. Ben asks where he’s going.
Sayid-“I don’t want any part of this. And if I see you again, it will be extremely unpleasant for us both.
Sayid sits at a bar drinking MacCutheon whiskey.
Ilana all dressed up sits next to Sayid. She asks him how much a glass of that scotch runs him. Sayid, catching a buzz, feels whatever it is, it’s worth it. Flirty Ilana doesn’t understand why someone would pay for 120 bucks for a glass of anything. She reads the menu.
Sayid- “If you knew what my drink costs, why did you ask me?”
She tells him it’s the same reason she’s eating her dinner there instead of a table. She orders the rib-eye, bloody. {Vampire?! Lol}
Sayid asks the seductress if she’s a professional.
Ilana-“A professional what?” {Really?!} “You think I’m a prostitute?”
She’s not a professional anything; she just thought he looked sad, “I like sad men.” {She’s an ass!} Sayid’s sorry to hear that. Ilana moves over to the seat next to him and asks him other than drinking alone at bars, “What do you do? For a living.” Sayid shares he’s between jobs at the moment.
Miss Nosey asks, “What did you do?”
Sayid- “The only thing I was ever good at.”
She wants to know why he quit.
Sayid- “I’m trying to change
She now knows why he is sad, “When you’re that good at something there are always going to be people who tempt you into staying the same.” {That’s a fact.} Sayid asks how she knows so much about temptation.
Ilana- “Buy me a glass of that scotch and I’ll tell you.”
Looking up at the spinning trees, Sayid is somewhere else but seems content. Oldham and the men wait. Horace walks up to restrained Sayid, “Hello there.”
Sayid seems to clear his thoughts and focus.
Horace waves his hand in front of Sayid as if to say ‘look over here’.
Oldham tells Sayid he’s going to ask him a few questions; he wants him to relax and answer them truthfully “Not that you’ll have any choice about it. What is your name?”
In his happy altered state Sayid replies, “Sayid Jarrah.”
This pleases Horace.
Oldham- Why were you in handcuffs when we found you?"
Very sad Sayid reveals, “Because…Because I am a bad man.”
Oldham asks if he was running away from his people.
Oldham- “The Hostiles.”
Sayid proclaims, “I am not a Hostile.”
Radzinski rolls his eyes at this.
Horace asks, “Then where did you come from, Sayid?”
Sayid looks up, “I came on a plane.”
The men are confused, what plane?
Happy and high Sayid, “Ajira flight 3 1 6. And that’s how I returned to the Island.”
Oldham- “Returned? You’ve been here before?”
Sayid- “Oh yes. The first time I was on Oceanic flight 8 1 5. Crashed. I was here for 100 days. Then I left. Ask Sawyer.”
They wonder who Sawyer is,, except for Radzinski who doesn’t care, as none of this matters, “Ask him about the Flame.”
Horace tells Radzinski to be quiet.
Oldham asks Sayid what he knows about “our stations here.”
Sayid reveals, “I know the flame was a communications station. The Pearl was to observe other stations. The Swan was to study electromagnetism. But of course that was before the incident.”
Radzinski’s upset, “The Swan! How could he know what we were gonna name it? We haven’t even built it yet. I told you, he saw the model! You see, he is a spy. I knew it!”
Horace isn’t gonna tell the fired up Radzinski again to “Cool it.”
Sayid {Reminds me of a scene from Linda Blair/exorcist } “You’re all going to die, you know… You’re going to be killed.”
Upset Sawyer rolls his eyes.
Horace- “How exactly would you know this, Sayid?”
Sayid- “Because I am from the future.”
Oldham second guesses himself and suggests maybe he should’ve used half a dropper,“Oops.”
Sayid gets a fantastic case of the giggles, “You used exactly enough.”
"Bench grinder, lube equipment, drill press over here. Plugs, bearings, sockets, ratchets here. How are you with a flat 4 engine?”
Juliet shows Kate around the garage. Kate has no idea what Juliet’s talking about. She switches gear asks Kate, “Jack told you about us.”
Kate shares "No", it was actually Hurley who spilled the obvious beans. Juliet feels it’s a relief, actually. She wasn’t sure quite how to do it without it sounding like she wanted Kate to stay away. Apparently it’s fine with Kate.
The ladies watch Horace and the security team bring in cuffed Sayid.
Sayid sees that Juliet and Kate are there. Sawyer stops to make eye contact with the girls. Juliet looks worried; watch Kate!
Horace heads a meeting about what to do with Sayid. Amy stands in the room with her infant. Radzinski suggests they kill him.
LaFleur tells them to hold on a second, “We’re not killin anyone.Right?”
Horace states he violated the truce, “What do you think they would do if they caught one of us?”
LaFleur- “Since when did we start acting like them? We’re civilized.”
Horace agrees, “We have a rule of law. And we’ve given him every opportunity to defend himself.”
Fidgety Radzinski reminds Horace that this man’s “seen things. He knows things. There’s nothing to talk about. He’s a spy.”
LaFleur asks Stu if he’s sure about that. He tried to escape from the Hostiles; he obviously has problems with his people. Radzinski feels sharing their secrets is the quickest way for him/Sayid to solve those problems. Horace is going to need a little more time to consider.
Radzinski scoffs, “The longer he’s among us, the more danger we’re in.”
LaFleur can talk to him, he just needs more time.
Radzinski snaps at La Fleur that he had his chance.
LaFleur- “Why are we on your clock, Radzinski?”
Radzinski suggests they call for a vote, “Either we make a decision or I call Ann Arbor. And they make it for us.”
Amy feels Radzinski is right. She pleads with Horace, “I can’t sleep with one eye open. We have a baby now. We have to think about Ethan….We have to think about all the children here. How are we going to feel safe with this man around? I don’t know what he’s up to, but we can’t keep him here.”
This really troubles La Fleur. Amy says they have no choice. Horace puts it to a vote, “All in favor of Radzinski's solution raise your hand.” Everyone raises their hands except LaFleur.
Horace turns to LaFleur, “I would really like to say its unanimous.”
LaFleur concedes.
Sayid carries Ilana into the room. {Kissing up a storm.} She tells him just for the record, she really was just having dinner. On the bed, Ilana tells Sayid to remove her boot. He starts to unzip the boot and she kicks him in the face! Bamm! Powww! Ilana pulls out her gun and warns him, “You so much as flinch and you’re dead.”
Sayid- “So who are you?”
She reveals she’s a professional hired by the family of Peter Avellino to bring him to Guam. The man he killed in cold blood last year on a golf course in The Seychelles. She’s a Bounty Hunter.
Ilana- “It doesn’t matter what I am. You’re going to answer for what you’ve done.”
LaFleur enters Sayid’s cell, “Hit me in the face.”
He feels Sayid owes him one any way, “So make it a good one.”
LaFleur lays out a plan to make it look like Sayid took the keys out of his pocket and “Let yourself out.” He also mentions the guard outside is Phil, the dimwit.
Sayid could most likely get his gun before he even realizes he’s out, “Just promise me you won’t shoot em.”
Content Sayid appreciates the offer, but he’s fine right “here.”
LaFleur tells him their gonna kill you, “They just took a vote. Even the new mom wants you dead.”
Sayid calmly replies, “I’m going to stay here, James.”
James wonders why he would change his mind from this morning especially after Sayid begged to be let go.
Sayid-“Because… when I woke up in the jungle...and I realized I was back on this island, I felt there was no purpose to it. But now I know exactly why I’m here.”
James-“To get shot! Then what? You’re out of your mind.”
James leaves.
LaFleur heads home. On the porch he looks over to {Kate’s/Jack’s. Is he going to ask Jack for help with the Sayid situation or just to talk to Kate?} porch. Acting upon emotion he knocks on that door; {4x} Kate answers. She closes the door behind her so the person in the house can’t hear them talk. Sawyer asks her why she came back. {Watch Kate’s face. She’s nervous.} He’s upset because Sayid just filled his ear with some crap about his damn purpose, “and I wanna know...why’d ya’ll come back?...Why Kate?”
Kate doesn’t know why everyone else came back, she only knows why she did.
Just then a driverless flaming Dharma van drives through Dharmaville and crashes into a house!
LaFleur-“What the hell?”
Siren can be heard while people break a window to escape the burning house.
Sawyer gets residents involved in getting the hoses going. {Grab a wrench, opening valves, grab the fire gear} Kate’s pulling people out of the burning house. Explosion!
Jack comes running out to see the chaos and asks Le Fleur what happened.
LaFleur-“Three years no burning buses. Ya’ll are back for one day...”
He tells Jack, “Get on that hose!”
Juliet comes running out. Jack’s trying to put out a fire. LaFleur radio’s all security to inform them they have a fire, “Everyone get to building 15 now!”
Phil, in the security monitor room, “Roger that. I’m on my way.”
He grabs a rifle and heads up the stairs.
Hooded young Ben hides in the dark waiting for Phil to leave. He enters the cell area where Sayid appears to have been waiting. Sayid asks Ben what happened to his {broken/taped} glasses. Apparently his father did it for bringing Sayid a sandwich.
Sayid understands this as his father was a hard man as well.
Ben cries, ”I really hate it here…If I let you out, will you take me with you?...To your people”
Sayid- “Yes, Ben, I will. That’s why I’m here”
At the airport we hear the announcement for Ajira flight 3 1 6 to Honolulu and Guam.
Ilana escorts her cuffed prisoner.
Sayid observes Hurley at ticket counter and then Jack, Sun and Kate. He realizes something is up.
Sayid asks Ilana, “Are you sure we’re going to Guam?”
Ilana-“Where else would we be going?”
Sayid nervously asks her for a favor, “Can we get the next plane?”
He tells her he’s very superstitious when it comes to flying.
Ilana offers to buy him a rabbit’s foot at the gift shop, “This is the plane we’re taking.”
On the plane Sayid looks/sees Sun via the view from between the seats. He seems very worried.
Ilana apologizes to him about the handcuffs, “But at least we’re in business.” We hear Ben tell the stewardess to wait and he thanks her for not closing it. Ben boards the plane. Beat up Ben and Sayid share an awkward moment.
Jack tells Hurley if he wants to get back this is how it’s gonna have to be.”
Sayid asks Ilana if she’s working for Benjamin Linus.
Ilana- “Who’s Benjamin Linus?” {If she’s not working for Widmore maybe Ben used one of his aliases.}
Sayid states, “He’s a liar. A manipulator. A man who allowed his own daughter to be murdered to save himself. A monster responsible for nothing short of genocide.”
Ilana asks why would she work for somebody like that.
Sayid-“I did.”
Hooded Ben unlocks the cell, releasing Sayid.
The two run through the jungle.
They come upon a path where a Dharma van is coming. Ben falls down. Sayid tells Ben to hide. The van pulls over.
Sayid tells Ben to “Shhhh.”
Jin gets out with his flashlight and gun.
Sayid approaches Jin. Jin asks what he’s doing there, “how did you get out?”
Sayid lies and tells him, “Sawyer let me go. They were going to kill me.”
What? Jin looks confused.
Jin’s radio announces, “Attention the prisoner escaped. The Hostile is no longer in custody. Be on the lookout. He could be armed.”
Sayid tells Jin, “They don’t know he released me. Please Jin. I need to keep moving.”
Jin says okay, but wants to talk to him first so he radio’s LaFleur. Sayid knocks out Jin.
Ben sees this and impressed asks Sayid, “Where’d you learn to do that? Come on. We better He called LaFleur."
Ben starts to walk away. Sayid takes Jin’s gun and quietly says, “You were right about me.”
Ben- “What?”
Sayid- “I am a killer.”
Sayid shoots young Ben in the chest with one shot.
They boy falls to the ground.
Sayid cries and then runs away.
He’s Our You is a GREAT EPISODE!!! Again the Shaman/guide role is brought up as well as altering the mind..consciousness. While this may be done for the purpose of learning, growth, enlightenment or even getting to the truth, we must remember manipulating the mind can cause the blurring of reality.
Let the episode magic, uh, I mean journey begin!
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* The man in the opening scene with the two boys holds his hands in a Buddhist Mudra gesture: Dhyana- This is the absolute balance of meditation.
* Cheng is wearing the Swan logo in the welcome/orientation video at the processing center, yet we're to believe the Swan isn't built yet. And apparently naming it wasn't known 'publicly'. So why have patches with a Swan on it already?
* Choice. Change. Purpose.
* Menu. Exit. Communication.
* Watch.
* Who sent the flaming Dharma bus, young Ben? Does Juliet play a part?
* Lineage. Royalty. Special.
* We have seen Sayid in moments of meditation and prayer.
* In Greatest Hits, Charlie mentions his band got their start at the Night and Day Bar on Oldham Street.
* Things are indeed happening within their heads/ minds.
* Santa Rosa. Psychopath. Crazy. Insane. Pharmaceuticals. Drug trip. Open your mind. Sweat Lodge. Meditation. Awakening. ALTERED STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS!
* Illusion.
* Geronimo Jackson. Alice in Wonderland. Down the rabbit hole.
* A few lyrics from the 78 record…”Dream a while. Scheme a while.”
* Horace knows.
* Radzinski likes control.
* Temple.
* Learn. Listen/hear-Look/see
* Kate and her half in/half out of the jumpsuit bit… What? She can’t decide which side to be on? Or is she preparing to run? Does she know what’s coming too?
* Ann Arbor= DeGroots?
* Ilana knows about MacCutcheon whiskey.
* Le Fleur, “Since when did we start acting like them? We’re civilized.” In season 1 Sawyer tells Jack “He’s in the wild.”
* The scene on the dock- Here we see Sayid walk away: Ben asks where he’s going.
Sayid- “I don’t want any part of this. And if I see you again, it will be extremely unpleasant for us both." BUT in the episode This Place is Death, that scene on the dock is different:
Especially the part when Sayid walks away. He wants no part of this. If he sees Jack or Ben again, “it will be extremely unpleasant for all of us.”
*In the episode DAVE, Sayid threatens to kill "Henry Gale" and actually pulls the trigger!
Vocabulary and Research...
* Carlos Castaneda author.The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge, A Separate Reality and Journey to Ixtlan. The book The separate reality: Further conversations with Don Juan is in 2 parts. Part 1 The preliminaries of seeing. Part 2-The task of seeing.
He also wrote a series of books that describe his purported training in traditional Mesoamerican shamanism. In Castaneda’s book, The Art of Dreaming, he describes an encounter during a lucid dreaming session with a supposed conscious entity that was trapped by other inorganic beings. The trapped entity was named the Blue Scout because its "energy" appeared blue-ish and it was an energetic scout (meaning it was outside of its original realm).
The Art of Dreaming is said to describe the steps needed to master control and consciousness of dreams. The Toltecs of Don Juan Matus' lineage believed that there are seven barriers to awareness, which they termed The seven Gates of Dreaming. In The Art of Dreaming Castaneda describes extensively how a state called Total Awareness can be achieved by means of dreaming.
* Shaman: The functions of a shaman may include leading a sacrifice, preserving the tradition by storytelling and songs; fortune telling, either guiding to their proper abode the souls of the dead (which may be guided either one-at-a-time or in a cumulative group, depending on culture), and/or curing (healing) of ailments. The ailments may be either purely physical afflictions -- such as disease, which may be cured by flattering, threatening, or wrestling the disease-spirit (sometimes trying all these, sequentially), and which may be completed by displaying some supposedly extracted token of the disease-spirit (displaying this, even if "fraudulent", is supposed to impress the disease-spirit that it has been, or is in the process of being, defeated, so that it will retreat and stay out of the patient's body), or else mental (including psychosomatic) afflictions - such as persistent terror (on account of some frightening experience), which may be likewise cured by similar methods. Usually in most languages a different term other than the one translated "shaman" is applied to a religious official leading sacrificial rites ("priest"), or to a raconteur ("sage") of traditional lore; there may be more of an overlap in functions (with that of a shaman), however, in the case of an interpreter of omens or of dreams.
On the island of Papua New Guinea, indigenous tribes believe that illness and calamity are caused by dark spirits, or masalai, which cling to a person's body and "poison" them. Shamans are summoned in order to "purge" the unwholesome spirits from a person.
A rite of passage for shamans-to-be, commonly involving physical illness and/or psychological crisis.
The shaman plays the role of healer in shamanic societies; shamans gain knowledge and power by traversing the axis mundi and bringing back knowledge from the heavens. Even in western society, this ancient practice of healing is referenced by the use of the caduceus as the symbol of medicine.
Generally, the shaman traverses the axis mundi and enters the spirit world by effecting a transition of consciousness, entering into an ecstatic trance, either auto-hypnotically or through the use of entheogens. The methods employed are diverse, and are often used together. Some of the methods for effecting such trance states: Tobacco, Drumming, Dancing, Singing, Listening to music. Icaros/medicine songs, Vigils, Fasting, Sweat Lodge, Vision Quests, Mariri, Sword fighting/Bladesmithing, Power or “master” plants used as incense or consumed to heal or attain altered states.
* Prayer flag is a colorful panel or rectangular cloth often found strung along mountain ridges and peaks high in the Himalayas to bless the surrounding countryside or for other purposes. Unknown in other branches of Buddhism, prayer flags are believed to have originated with Bön, which predated Buddhism in Tibet. Traditionally they are woodblock print. Traditionally, prayer flags come in sets of five, one in each of five colors. The five colors represent the elements, and the Five Pure Lights and are arranged from left to right in a specific order. Different elements are associated with different colors for specific traditions, purposes and sadhana:
Blue (symbolizing sky/space)
White (symbolizing air/wind)
Red (symbolizing fire)
Green (symbolizing water)
Yellow (symbolizing earth)
The center of a prayer flag traditionally features a “Ta” (powerful or strong horse) bearing three flaming jewels (specifically ratna) on its back. The Ta is a symbol of speed and the transformation of bad fortune to good fortune. The three flaming jewels symbolize the Buddha, the Dharma (Buddhist teachings), and the Sangha (Buddhist community), the three cornerstones of Tibetan philosophical tradition.
Traditionally, prayer flags are used to promote peace, compassion, strength, and wisdom. The flags do not carry prayers to 'gods,' a common misconception, rather the Tibetans believe the prayers and mantras will be blown by the wind to spread the good will and compassion into all pervading space. Therefore, prayer flags are thought to bring benefit to all.
By hanging flags in high places the "Wind Horse" will carry the blessings depicted on the flags to all beings. The prayers of a flag become a permanent part of the universe as the images fade from exposure to the elements. Just as life moves on and is replaced by new life, This act symbolizes a welcoming of life changes and an acknowledgment that all beings are part of a greater ongoing cycle.
* Purple- In human color psychology, purple is associated with royalty and nobility.
- People with purple auras are said to have a love of ritual and ceremony
- Pool: Purple is the color of the ball in Snooker Plus with a 10-point value.
* Menu- In computing, an on-screen list of alternatives.
And on a computer keyboard, the menu key. - In military history, Operation Menu.
Long time readers of my notes are not strangers to me reminding them to not only watch the show but to “really look so you can see, don't just hear things, really listen and feel the experience.” I know that sounds very bizarre, but we have been told to do this many, many times over the past five years. We’re supposed to be opening our minds.
"Careful observation is the only key to true and complete awareness."
Haven't you ever felt like you needed an escape from things to try to figure out who you are or who you want to be?
Maybe even to reflect upon whom you are now, how you became this person and maybe find the change you need to become a new you? Don't you wish it was as easy as someone just giving you the answer? Unfortunately that answer can only come from our self, our own heart. All I can tell you is, if you're feeling lost and need to reconnect or you're searching for an answer or a change, get away to find yourself. The island cures what ails you.
Experience the unexpected!
Don't be a stranger... Come Back!
My Mantra…Has been and continues to be, WAKE UP!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode; we all know what they are. Understood? Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance.
A Chicken coop. Tikrit Iraq.
A man pulls a young boy out of the house in anger, “You are not a child anymore! Act like a man! You must kill one!”
The boy doesn’t want to.
The man says, “You must do as your father asks.”
He wants the boy to listen to what he’s telling him.
The man gives the boy a butcher’s clever and tells the boy, “You must kill one of them. You will stay outside until you do!”
The boy stands alone staring into the coop. A younger boy comes over and puts his hand on the shoulder of the other boy. He makes a trail with the seed bait, catches a chicken and breaks its neck. He gives the dead chicken to the older boy. The man praises the older boy, thinking he did the killing, “Good for you. You did it.”
The boy admits it wasn’t he who did it.
The disappointed man says, “Well, At least one of you will be a man.”
He looks into the eyes of the younger boy, “Well done, Sayid.”
Sayid stands in his cell; notes the camera and its blinking red light.
Phil sits in front of the video monitoring desk cleaning his gun. Young Ben comes in to bring Sayid another sandwich; chicken salad this time. Sayid hasn't been eating.
Phil doesn’t think it’s the menu, “He’s not eating. Save yourself the trouble kid.”
Ben-"But Horace told me to.”
Phil wonders, “Why does he care so much? The guy’s a Hostile.”
Ben- “That doesn’t mean he’s not hungry.”
Whatever. Phil okay’s the kid going in.
Young Ben enters the “Authorized Personnel Doors” into the cell area.
Ben tells Sayid he brought him a sandwich. Sayid takes the plate. Ben also gives him a book that he’s read twice already, “It's good.” {A Separate Reality}
Sayid-“Thank you.”
Ben asks if Richard sent him, “Richard. He’s your leader. Right.”
Sayid nods to note the camera that’s watching them.
Ben-“It’s just a camera. They can see, but they can’t hear. Four years ago I ran away into the jungle and Richard found me. I said I wanted to leave that I wanted to join you. So I’ve been patient. And if you’re patient too, I think I can help you.” {Making deals already?!}
Moscow.
A man carrying a paper bag hurries inside the hallway. He puts the bag down and runs into an apartment. {Through a few doors} He is running from someone. He chain locks the door and puts his ear to the door to listen. The man opens an armoire, tosses stuff out of the way to reveal a safe. He unlocks the safe by entering numbers on the keypad. {Daylight} Sayid enters and pulls a gun on the man. The man reveals a huge wad of money and offers it to Sayid. Sayid shoots him 2x. {Looks at his hand and head.}. Sayid heads down the stairs. {It's Daylight.}
Night. {Snow.}
Outside, Sayid dressed in black, enters large gates with monogrammed B on them.
He meets up with Ben. {Sayid passed that car on the street.} Sayid tells Ben the guy tried to bribe him, of course it didn’t work.
Sayid asks, “Where to now?”
Ben- “Nowhere. You’re done.”
Ben tells him “We’re done. Andropov was the last one. You’ve taken care of everyone who posed a threat to your friends.” {To his friends- Ben doesn't say "to you" or "to you and your friends"}
They look into each other's eyes.
Ben- “It’s been a pleasure working with you, Sayid.” And he walks away.
Sayid is angry and stunned, “So that’s it? I killed all those people for you, and now you’re just walking away.”
Ben- “You didn’t kill them for me, Sayid. You’re the one that asked for their names. There’s no one else in Widmore’s organization that we need to go after. Congratulations. Mission accomplished.”
Sayid asks sadly, almost sounding lost, “What do I do now?’”
Ben- "I supposed you should go live your life. You’re free, Sayid.”
Un-Free Sayid sits in his cell.
Radzinski unlocked the cell to let Horace the mathematician in. {Both men wear glasses} Horace, who’s packin tin snips, asks Sayid to, “Put out your hands.” After slight hesitation Sayid does. Horace snips off his plastic cuffs.
Sayid- “Thank you.”
Horace is happy to “hear” his voice, “I’m Horace. Now’s the part where you tell me your name.” Sayid doesn’t speak. Horace needs him to tell him what he was doing out in that jungle.
Radzinski interjects, “Ask him about the model.”
Horace tells Radzinski, “I got this.”
Horace continues “Those handcuffs. Are you having some kind of problem with your people? Because either you’re in some kind of disagreement, which makes me wanna help you, or you’re a spy trying to infiltrate us. So which is it?”
Sayid is silent.
Horace removes his glasses, “OK. I’m gonna give you an hour to decide whether you wanna talk to me. But if decide you don’t want to, then I’m gonna have to take this to the next level.”
They exit the cell.
Bacon {5 pieces-looks like a temple, "Asian or Buddhist character"} burns on the stove.
Juliet stares out the window.
LaFleur dressed in his Dharma jumpsuit removed the burning bacon that Juliet “forgot” about.
He asks her what’s on the TV.
They see from their window Kate and Jack across the way.
LaFleur- “Aahh.”
Juliet-“It's over, isn’t it?”
What’s over?
Juliet- “This. Us. Playing house. All of it. I never actually thought they’d come back.”
James feels “So they’re back. Nothin’s changed.”
Juliet-“What if Sayid tells them who he is.”
James- “Sayid aint sayin nothing.”
Juliet is worried. James tells her he has this under control. There's a knock at the door.
James answers it, “Morning H.” {Horace}
Horace shares with Jim he just spoke to the prisoner, “We have a problem.” Uh Oh!
The prisoner hasn’t said anything; which is what worries Horace. {Screw that! No news is good news! Lol} Horace needs to find out why he violated the truce, “Why the hell he would come into our territory. I’m just gonna have to have Oldham do his thing on em.”
Jim- “That psychopath! No way.”
Horace asks what choice does he have. Worried LaFleur wants to have a go at him, alone.
Horace-“Be my guest, but I’m telling ya man, he is not gonna talk.”
LaFleur feels, “Oh, he’ll talk to me.”
LaFleur heads down to Dharma Security. He passes by Phil at the monitor desk and tells him to take his lunch.
Phil- “You going in there alone?”
LaFleur- “Take your lunch, Phil.”
Yes sir.
Sawyer sees Sayid standing against the cell wall. He asks him how he’s doing.
Sayid shares with him, “A 12 year old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I’m doing?”
Sawyer-“Sweet kid, huh?”
Sayid wonders, “How can you live with him here?"
Sawyer- “Cause I aint got a choice.”
Sayid-“Is that so?”
Sawyer- “Let’s see how you feel after three years of living in the 70’s. Lucky for you I spent that time getting myself in a position to save your ass.” {So, Sawyer knew this was coming?} Sawyer picks the key to unlock the cell. Sawyer tells Sayid he’s sorry and head butts him. This is to make “them” believe that Sayid didn’t give up his confession easily.
Sayid-“What confession?”
Sawyer makes up a story that Sayid was trying to defect, “You were gonna offer some Intel on the Others in exchange for living with us.”
Sayid asks him why would he want to do that.
Sawyer- “What the hell else am I supposed to do with you?”
Sayid- “Let me go.” Sawyer can’t just let him go because these people trust him. He shares with Sayid he’s built a pretty good life here. If lets him go, “All that goes away. So you got yourself a choice, Chief. Either you cooperate and join the party in Dharmaville or you’re on your own.”
Sayid- “Then I guess I’m on my own.”
Hurley delivers some fresh off the griddle breakfast food to Jack and Kate’s table. He tells them not to forget trying the dippin sauces they really bring out the ham. {Kate is half in/Half out of her Dharma jumpsuit again.}
Hurley asks what’s going on with Sayid. Jack doesn’t know anything yet. Kate gets a bit anxious because she knew he was at Sawyers last night.
Jack- “He told me to leave him alone and let him do his job.”
Hurley-“And you’re going to?”
Yep.
Kate says she’ll talk to Juliet; see what she can tell her. Hurley questions if Sawyer didn’t tell her anything why would Juliet. He feels Juliet wouldn’t say anything because she lives together with Sawyer, not as roommates, “You know, together like you guys were. I thought it was kinda obvious. Who couldn’t see that coming?” {Who?} Hurley leaves to go make more waffles.
Kate asks Jack if he knew.
Yep, he did.
Sayid relaxes in his cell. Keys jingle.
Roger Linus enters the area to mop up.
Roger talks to Sayid. “You know what I can’t figure out…is how the hell you got caught. You Hostiles are supposed to be the kings of the jungle. How dumb are you that you got captured by these idiots. Hahaha.”
Sayid still relaxing on the cot, “And yet you’re the one who mops up after them.”
Roger changes his tune, “Yeah well, we’ll see how cute you are when Oldham gets done with you, Pal.”
Young Ben enters carrying a tray. He is obviously frightened by his father. Roger asks the boy what the hell he’s doing there.
Young Ben replies nervously, “I was bringing you a sandwich.”
Roger scoffs that Ben never made him a sandwich in his life. Ben nervously stumbles over his words trying to tell his dad that he made one for himself and he’d bring dad one. Sayid watches. Roger tells the boy not to lie then he grabs Ben and throws him up against the bars of the cell. Ben admits to making the sandwich for “him” {Sayid} Nobody told him to do that.
Young Ben cries, “I just thought that…”
Roger tells Ben to “go home….I’ll tell you what to think.”
Ben leaves.
Roger tosses the tray and leaves, locking the door behind him.
Sayid in his yellow tee shirt continues to build a better world. He is working construction in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.
Sayid hears someone behind him. It’s Ben.
Sayid asks Ben how he found him.
Ben- “I looked.”
Ben reveals to him John Locke is dead.
Sayid looks surprised.
Ben- “I think he was murdered.” {Really?!}
Sayid- “Why would anyone kill him?”
Ben- “I’d say it was retribution for the work you and I have been doing.”
Ben tells Sayid he’s in danger. After all if Ben can find him so can the people that found Locke. “The same people who, even as we speak are sitting outside Hugo’s Mental Institution.”
Sayid- “They’re watching him?”
Yep. A man in a sedan had been there all week just waiting, presumably waiting for Sayid or Ben to show their faces. Sayid figures Ben came all that way to suggest to him that he kill this man.
Ben-“You don’t want to?”
Sayid- “What makes you think I want to?”
Ben shares, to put it simply, “You’re capable of things most other men aren’t. Every choice you’ve made in your life, whether it was to murder or to torture, it hasn’t really been a choice at all has it? It’s in your nature. It’s what you are! You’re a killer, Sayid.”
Sayid looks right in Ben’s eyes and says, “I’m not what you think I am. I don’t like killing.”
In that case, Ben apologizes, “I was mistaken about you.”
Ben walks away.
Sayid is in his cell. LaFleur, Radzinski, Phil and security guys enter the cell. Le Fleur tells Sayid it’s his last chance, “You got anything to say?”
Apparently he's got nothing to say so LaFleur zaps him with the zapper!
LaFleur tells security to take him to Oldham; they cuff Sayid. You can see LaFleur’s troubled.
A Dharma van pulls up to a tee-pee.{Sweat lodge} an old Victrola plays a 78rpm record. {‘I Can’t Give You Anything But Love, baby’ is the song.} Prayer flags are hung.
Horace calls out to Oldham and asks if “we’re” ready.
Sayid whispers to LaFleur, “Who is that man?”
LaFleur informs him, “He’s our you.”
Oldham uses an eye dropper to drop the liquid drug onto a sugar cube. {Is Sayid a horse?! Lol} Sayid won’t open his mouth to ingest the sugar drug so Oldham has security put him in the restraints. Sayid puts up a fight but is restrained by being chained/strapped to a tree. {Yep, Horse. Lol. BTW, they remove his cuffs.}
LaFleur looks concerned.
Oldham tells Sayid not to worry, “They’re for your protection. There are side effects to what I’m giving you.”
Oldham tells the guys to “Open his mouth.”
Phil and Radzinski pry open Sayid’s mouth and force him to ingest the sugar drug. Oldham peacefully tells Sayid, “Don’t be afraid. Just turn your mind off. Let it take effect.”
Sayid tries to break free.
Oldham- “It’s beyond your control. So fighting it is a poor use of your energies. You see, whether you struggle or not one thing’s for sure, friend, you will tell us the truth.”
It's night on the dock. {Note boat named Illusion. I friggin LOVE that!} This is the night Ben tells gun toting Sun about a woman who going to tell them how to get back to the island. Kate says this is insane, calls them crazy, yada, yada, yada… Sayid walks away. Ben asks where he’s going.
Sayid-“I don’t want any part of this. And if I see you again, it will be extremely unpleasant for us both.
Sayid sits at a bar drinking MacCutheon whiskey.
Ilana all dressed up sits next to Sayid. She asks him how much a glass of that scotch runs him. Sayid, catching a buzz, feels whatever it is, it’s worth it. Flirty Ilana doesn’t understand why someone would pay for 120 bucks for a glass of anything. She reads the menu.
Sayid- “If you knew what my drink costs, why did you ask me?”
She tells him it’s the same reason she’s eating her dinner there instead of a table. She orders the rib-eye, bloody. {Vampire?! Lol}
Sayid asks the seductress if she’s a professional.
Ilana-“A professional what?” {Really?!} “You think I’m a prostitute?”
She’s not a professional anything; she just thought he looked sad, “I like sad men.” {She’s an ass!} Sayid’s sorry to hear that. Ilana moves over to the seat next to him and asks him other than drinking alone at bars, “What do you do? For a living.” Sayid shares he’s between jobs at the moment.
Miss Nosey asks, “What did you do?”
Sayid- “The only thing I was ever good at.”
She wants to know why he quit.
Sayid- “I’m trying to change
She now knows why he is sad, “When you’re that good at something there are always going to be people who tempt you into staying the same.” {That’s a fact.} Sayid asks how she knows so much about temptation.
Ilana- “Buy me a glass of that scotch and I’ll tell you.”
Looking up at the spinning trees, Sayid is somewhere else but seems content. Oldham and the men wait. Horace walks up to restrained Sayid, “Hello there.”
Sayid seems to clear his thoughts and focus.
Horace waves his hand in front of Sayid as if to say ‘look over here’.
Oldham tells Sayid he’s going to ask him a few questions; he wants him to relax and answer them truthfully “Not that you’ll have any choice about it. What is your name?”
In his happy altered state Sayid replies, “Sayid Jarrah.”
This pleases Horace.
Oldham- Why were you in handcuffs when we found you?"
Very sad Sayid reveals, “Because…Because I am a bad man.”
Oldham asks if he was running away from his people.
Oldham- “The Hostiles.”
Sayid proclaims, “I am not a Hostile.”
Radzinski rolls his eyes at this.
Horace asks, “Then where did you come from, Sayid?”
Sayid looks up, “I came on a plane.”
The men are confused, what plane?
Happy and high Sayid, “Ajira flight 3 1 6. And that’s how I returned to the Island.”
Oldham- “Returned? You’ve been here before?”
Sayid- “Oh yes. The first time I was on Oceanic flight 8 1 5. Crashed. I was here for 100 days. Then I left. Ask Sawyer.”
They wonder who Sawyer is,, except for Radzinski who doesn’t care, as none of this matters, “Ask him about the Flame.”
Horace tells Radzinski to be quiet.
Oldham asks Sayid what he knows about “our stations here.”
Sayid reveals, “I know the flame was a communications station. The Pearl was to observe other stations. The Swan was to study electromagnetism. But of course that was before the incident.”
Radzinski’s upset, “The Swan! How could he know what we were gonna name it? We haven’t even built it yet. I told you, he saw the model! You see, he is a spy. I knew it!”
Horace isn’t gonna tell the fired up Radzinski again to “Cool it.”
Sayid {Reminds me of a scene from Linda Blair/exorcist } “You’re all going to die, you know… You’re going to be killed.”
Upset Sawyer rolls his eyes.
Horace- “How exactly would you know this, Sayid?”
Sayid- “Because I am from the future.”
Oldham second guesses himself and suggests maybe he should’ve used half a dropper,“Oops.”
Sayid gets a fantastic case of the giggles, “You used exactly enough.”
"Bench grinder, lube equipment, drill press over here. Plugs, bearings, sockets, ratchets here. How are you with a flat 4 engine?”
Juliet shows Kate around the garage. Kate has no idea what Juliet’s talking about. She switches gear asks Kate, “Jack told you about us.”
Kate shares "No", it was actually Hurley who spilled the obvious beans. Juliet feels it’s a relief, actually. She wasn’t sure quite how to do it without it sounding like she wanted Kate to stay away. Apparently it’s fine with Kate.
The ladies watch Horace and the security team bring in cuffed Sayid.
Sayid sees that Juliet and Kate are there. Sawyer stops to make eye contact with the girls. Juliet looks worried; watch Kate!
Horace heads a meeting about what to do with Sayid. Amy stands in the room with her infant. Radzinski suggests they kill him.
LaFleur tells them to hold on a second, “We’re not killin anyone.Right?”
Horace states he violated the truce, “What do you think they would do if they caught one of us?”
LaFleur- “Since when did we start acting like them? We’re civilized.”
Horace agrees, “We have a rule of law. And we’ve given him every opportunity to defend himself.”
Fidgety Radzinski reminds Horace that this man’s “seen things. He knows things. There’s nothing to talk about. He’s a spy.”
LaFleur asks Stu if he’s sure about that. He tried to escape from the Hostiles; he obviously has problems with his people. Radzinski feels sharing their secrets is the quickest way for him/Sayid to solve those problems. Horace is going to need a little more time to consider.
Radzinski scoffs, “The longer he’s among us, the more danger we’re in.”
LaFleur can talk to him, he just needs more time.
Radzinski snaps at La Fleur that he had his chance.
LaFleur- “Why are we on your clock, Radzinski?”
Radzinski suggests they call for a vote, “Either we make a decision or I call Ann Arbor. And they make it for us.”
Amy feels Radzinski is right. She pleads with Horace, “I can’t sleep with one eye open. We have a baby now. We have to think about Ethan….We have to think about all the children here. How are we going to feel safe with this man around? I don’t know what he’s up to, but we can’t keep him here.”
This really troubles La Fleur. Amy says they have no choice. Horace puts it to a vote, “All in favor of Radzinski's solution raise your hand.” Everyone raises their hands except LaFleur.
Horace turns to LaFleur, “I would really like to say its unanimous.”
LaFleur concedes.
Sayid carries Ilana into the room. {Kissing up a storm.} She tells him just for the record, she really was just having dinner. On the bed, Ilana tells Sayid to remove her boot. He starts to unzip the boot and she kicks him in the face! Bamm! Powww! Ilana pulls out her gun and warns him, “You so much as flinch and you’re dead.”
Sayid- “So who are you?”
She reveals she’s a professional hired by the family of Peter Avellino to bring him to Guam. The man he killed in cold blood last year on a golf course in The Seychelles. She’s a Bounty Hunter.
Ilana- “It doesn’t matter what I am. You’re going to answer for what you’ve done.”
LaFleur enters Sayid’s cell, “Hit me in the face.”
He feels Sayid owes him one any way, “So make it a good one.”
LaFleur lays out a plan to make it look like Sayid took the keys out of his pocket and “Let yourself out.” He also mentions the guard outside is Phil, the dimwit.
Sayid could most likely get his gun before he even realizes he’s out, “Just promise me you won’t shoot em.”
Content Sayid appreciates the offer, but he’s fine right “here.”
LaFleur tells him their gonna kill you, “They just took a vote. Even the new mom wants you dead.”
Sayid calmly replies, “I’m going to stay here, James.”
James wonders why he would change his mind from this morning especially after Sayid begged to be let go.
Sayid-“Because… when I woke up in the jungle...and I realized I was back on this island, I felt there was no purpose to it. But now I know exactly why I’m here.”
James-“To get shot! Then what? You’re out of your mind.”
James leaves.
LaFleur heads home. On the porch he looks over to {Kate’s/Jack’s. Is he going to ask Jack for help with the Sayid situation or just to talk to Kate?} porch. Acting upon emotion he knocks on that door; {4x} Kate answers. She closes the door behind her so the person in the house can’t hear them talk. Sawyer asks her why she came back. {Watch Kate’s face. She’s nervous.} He’s upset because Sayid just filled his ear with some crap about his damn purpose, “and I wanna know...why’d ya’ll come back?...Why Kate?”
Kate doesn’t know why everyone else came back, she only knows why she did.
Just then a driverless flaming Dharma van drives through Dharmaville and crashes into a house!
LaFleur-“What the hell?”
Siren can be heard while people break a window to escape the burning house.
Sawyer gets residents involved in getting the hoses going. {Grab a wrench, opening valves, grab the fire gear} Kate’s pulling people out of the burning house. Explosion!
Jack comes running out to see the chaos and asks Le Fleur what happened.
LaFleur-“Three years no burning buses. Ya’ll are back for one day...”
He tells Jack, “Get on that hose!”
Juliet comes running out. Jack’s trying to put out a fire. LaFleur radio’s all security to inform them they have a fire, “Everyone get to building 15 now!”
Phil, in the security monitor room, “Roger that. I’m on my way.”
He grabs a rifle and heads up the stairs.
Hooded young Ben hides in the dark waiting for Phil to leave. He enters the cell area where Sayid appears to have been waiting. Sayid asks Ben what happened to his {broken/taped} glasses. Apparently his father did it for bringing Sayid a sandwich.
Sayid understands this as his father was a hard man as well.
Ben cries, ”I really hate it here…If I let you out, will you take me with you?...To your people”
Sayid- “Yes, Ben, I will. That’s why I’m here”
At the airport we hear the announcement for Ajira flight 3 1 6 to Honolulu and Guam.
Ilana escorts her cuffed prisoner.
Sayid observes Hurley at ticket counter and then Jack, Sun and Kate. He realizes something is up.
Sayid asks Ilana, “Are you sure we’re going to Guam?”
Ilana-“Where else would we be going?”
Sayid nervously asks her for a favor, “Can we get the next plane?”
He tells her he’s very superstitious when it comes to flying.
Ilana offers to buy him a rabbit’s foot at the gift shop, “This is the plane we’re taking.”
On the plane Sayid looks/sees Sun via the view from between the seats. He seems very worried.
Ilana apologizes to him about the handcuffs, “But at least we’re in business.” We hear Ben tell the stewardess to wait and he thanks her for not closing it. Ben boards the plane. Beat up Ben and Sayid share an awkward moment.
Jack tells Hurley if he wants to get back this is how it’s gonna have to be.”
Sayid asks Ilana if she’s working for Benjamin Linus.
Ilana- “Who’s Benjamin Linus?” {If she’s not working for Widmore maybe Ben used one of his aliases.}
Sayid states, “He’s a liar. A manipulator. A man who allowed his own daughter to be murdered to save himself. A monster responsible for nothing short of genocide.”
Ilana asks why would she work for somebody like that.
Sayid-“I did.”
Hooded Ben unlocks the cell, releasing Sayid.
The two run through the jungle.
They come upon a path where a Dharma van is coming. Ben falls down. Sayid tells Ben to hide. The van pulls over.
Sayid tells Ben to “Shhhh.”
Jin gets out with his flashlight and gun.
Sayid approaches Jin. Jin asks what he’s doing there, “how did you get out?”
Sayid lies and tells him, “Sawyer let me go. They were going to kill me.”
What? Jin looks confused.
Jin’s radio announces, “Attention the prisoner escaped. The Hostile is no longer in custody. Be on the lookout. He could be armed.”
Sayid tells Jin, “They don’t know he released me. Please Jin. I need to keep moving.”
Jin says okay, but wants to talk to him first so he radio’s LaFleur. Sayid knocks out Jin.
Ben sees this and impressed asks Sayid, “Where’d you learn to do that? Come on. We better He called LaFleur."
Ben starts to walk away. Sayid takes Jin’s gun and quietly says, “You were right about me.”
Ben- “What?”
Sayid- “I am a killer.”
Sayid shoots young Ben in the chest with one shot.
They boy falls to the ground.
Sayid cries and then runs away.
Let the episode magic, uh, I mean journey begin!
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* The man in the opening scene with the two boys holds his hands in a Buddhist Mudra gesture: Dhyana- This is the absolute balance of meditation.
* Cheng is wearing the Swan logo in the welcome/orientation video at the processing center, yet we're to believe the Swan isn't built yet. And apparently naming it wasn't known 'publicly'. So why have patches with a Swan on it already?
* Choice. Change. Purpose.
* Menu. Exit. Communication.
* Watch.
* Who sent the flaming Dharma bus, young Ben? Does Juliet play a part?
* Lineage. Royalty. Special.
* We have seen Sayid in moments of meditation and prayer.
* In Greatest Hits, Charlie mentions his band got their start at the Night and Day Bar on Oldham Street.
* Things are indeed happening within their heads/ minds.
* Santa Rosa. Psychopath. Crazy. Insane. Pharmaceuticals. Drug trip. Open your mind. Sweat Lodge. Meditation. Awakening. ALTERED STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS!
* Illusion.
* Geronimo Jackson. Alice in Wonderland. Down the rabbit hole.
* A few lyrics from the 78 record…”Dream a while. Scheme a while.”
* Horace knows.
* Radzinski likes control.
* Temple.
* Learn. Listen/hear-Look/see
* Kate and her half in/half out of the jumpsuit bit… What? She can’t decide which side to be on? Or is she preparing to run? Does she know what’s coming too?
* Ann Arbor= DeGroots?
* Ilana knows about MacCutcheon whiskey.
* Le Fleur, “Since when did we start acting like them? We’re civilized.” In season 1 Sawyer tells Jack “He’s in the wild.”
* The scene on the dock- Here we see Sayid walk away: Ben asks where he’s going.
Sayid- “I don’t want any part of this. And if I see you again, it will be extremely unpleasant for us both." BUT in the episode This Place is Death, that scene on the dock is different:
Especially the part when Sayid walks away. He wants no part of this. If he sees Jack or Ben again, “it will be extremely unpleasant for all of us.”
*In the episode DAVE, Sayid threatens to kill "Henry Gale" and actually pulls the trigger!
Vocabulary and Research...
* Carlos Castaneda author.The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge, A Separate Reality and Journey to Ixtlan. The book The separate reality: Further conversations with Don Juan is in 2 parts. Part 1 The preliminaries of seeing. Part 2-The task of seeing.
He also wrote a series of books that describe his purported training in traditional Mesoamerican shamanism. In Castaneda’s book, The Art of Dreaming, he describes an encounter during a lucid dreaming session with a supposed conscious entity that was trapped by other inorganic beings. The trapped entity was named the Blue Scout because its "energy" appeared blue-ish and it was an energetic scout (meaning it was outside of its original realm).
The Art of Dreaming is said to describe the steps needed to master control and consciousness of dreams. The Toltecs of Don Juan Matus' lineage believed that there are seven barriers to awareness, which they termed The seven Gates of Dreaming. In The Art of Dreaming Castaneda describes extensively how a state called Total Awareness can be achieved by means of dreaming.
* Shaman: The functions of a shaman may include leading a sacrifice, preserving the tradition by storytelling and songs; fortune telling, either guiding to their proper abode the souls of the dead (which may be guided either one-at-a-time or in a cumulative group, depending on culture), and/or curing (healing) of ailments. The ailments may be either purely physical afflictions -- such as disease, which may be cured by flattering, threatening, or wrestling the disease-spirit (sometimes trying all these, sequentially), and which may be completed by displaying some supposedly extracted token of the disease-spirit (displaying this, even if "fraudulent", is supposed to impress the disease-spirit that it has been, or is in the process of being, defeated, so that it will retreat and stay out of the patient's body), or else mental (including psychosomatic) afflictions - such as persistent terror (on account of some frightening experience), which may be likewise cured by similar methods. Usually in most languages a different term other than the one translated "shaman" is applied to a religious official leading sacrificial rites ("priest"), or to a raconteur ("sage") of traditional lore; there may be more of an overlap in functions (with that of a shaman), however, in the case of an interpreter of omens or of dreams.
On the island of Papua New Guinea, indigenous tribes believe that illness and calamity are caused by dark spirits, or masalai, which cling to a person's body and "poison" them. Shamans are summoned in order to "purge" the unwholesome spirits from a person.
A rite of passage for shamans-to-be, commonly involving physical illness and/or psychological crisis.
The shaman plays the role of healer in shamanic societies; shamans gain knowledge and power by traversing the axis mundi and bringing back knowledge from the heavens. Even in western society, this ancient practice of healing is referenced by the use of the caduceus as the symbol of medicine.
Generally, the shaman traverses the axis mundi and enters the spirit world by effecting a transition of consciousness, entering into an ecstatic trance, either auto-hypnotically or through the use of entheogens. The methods employed are diverse, and are often used together. Some of the methods for effecting such trance states: Tobacco, Drumming, Dancing, Singing, Listening to music. Icaros/medicine songs, Vigils, Fasting, Sweat Lodge, Vision Quests, Mariri, Sword fighting/Bladesmithing, Power or “master” plants used as incense or consumed to heal or attain altered states.
* Prayer flag is a colorful panel or rectangular cloth often found strung along mountain ridges and peaks high in the Himalayas to bless the surrounding countryside or for other purposes. Unknown in other branches of Buddhism, prayer flags are believed to have originated with Bön, which predated Buddhism in Tibet. Traditionally they are woodblock print. Traditionally, prayer flags come in sets of five, one in each of five colors. The five colors represent the elements, and the Five Pure Lights and are arranged from left to right in a specific order. Different elements are associated with different colors for specific traditions, purposes and sadhana:
Blue (symbolizing sky/space)
White (symbolizing air/wind)
Red (symbolizing fire)
Green (symbolizing water)
Yellow (symbolizing earth)
The center of a prayer flag traditionally features a “Ta” (powerful or strong horse) bearing three flaming jewels (specifically ratna) on its back. The Ta is a symbol of speed and the transformation of bad fortune to good fortune. The three flaming jewels symbolize the Buddha, the Dharma (Buddhist teachings), and the Sangha (Buddhist community), the three cornerstones of Tibetan philosophical tradition.
Traditionally, prayer flags are used to promote peace, compassion, strength, and wisdom. The flags do not carry prayers to 'gods,' a common misconception, rather the Tibetans believe the prayers and mantras will be blown by the wind to spread the good will and compassion into all pervading space. Therefore, prayer flags are thought to bring benefit to all.
By hanging flags in high places the "Wind Horse" will carry the blessings depicted on the flags to all beings. The prayers of a flag become a permanent part of the universe as the images fade from exposure to the elements. Just as life moves on and is replaced by new life, This act symbolizes a welcoming of life changes and an acknowledgment that all beings are part of a greater ongoing cycle.
* Purple- In human color psychology, purple is associated with royalty and nobility.
- People with purple auras are said to have a love of ritual and ceremony
- Pool: Purple is the color of the ball in Snooker Plus with a 10-point value.
* Menu- In computing, an on-screen list of alternatives.
And on a computer keyboard, the menu key. - In military history, Operation Menu.
Long time readers of my notes are not strangers to me reminding them to not only watch the show but to “really look so you can see, don't just hear things, really listen and feel the experience.” I know that sounds very bizarre, but we have been told to do this many, many times over the past five years. We’re supposed to be opening our minds.
"Careful observation is the only key to true and complete awareness."
Haven't you ever felt like you needed an escape from things to try to figure out who you are or who you want to be?
Maybe even to reflect upon whom you are now, how you became this person and maybe find the change you need to become a new you? Don't you wish it was as easy as someone just giving you the answer? Unfortunately that answer can only come from our self, our own heart. All I can tell you is, if you're feeling lost and need to reconnect or you're searching for an answer or a change, get away to find yourself. The island cures what ails you.
Experience the unexpected!
Don't be a stranger... Come Back!
My Mantra…Has been and continues to be, WAKE UP!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode; we all know what they are. Understood? Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance.
March 26, 2009
The ODI Lostcast "Embraces" Namaste.
Hi Losties!!
Well we have decided to try out two new segments this week. The first segment is what we call Initial Thoughts in a Flash. This will be the opening of the podcast and is a 2-3 minute clip of us chatting about the episode for the first time. SO you get an inside listen at what we thought of the episode right after it aired.
The second segment was created because there was so much positive feedback for having DarkUFO LOST Recapper Vozzek on the last recap podcast that he has agreed to do some weekly clips for us. We are calling that segment Vozz's Final Thoughts. This segment will be the end of the recap portion right before the preview/spoilers section
Nothing else is changing we will still have our regular recaps followed by a preview of the upcoming episodes with a spoilers-round up.
Enjoy the LOSTNESS!!
NOTE: The SPOILERS Section starts at the 88 Minute mark this week.
ODI LOSTcast 36 - Epi 509 Recap and Epi 510 Preview
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Well we have decided to try out two new segments this week. The first segment is what we call Initial Thoughts in a Flash. This will be the opening of the podcast and is a 2-3 minute clip of us chatting about the episode for the first time. SO you get an inside listen at what we thought of the episode right after it aired.
The second segment was created because there was so much positive feedback for having DarkUFO LOST Recapper Vozzek on the last recap podcast that he has agreed to do some weekly clips for us. We are calling that segment Vozz's Final Thoughts. This segment will be the end of the recap portion right before the preview/spoilers section
Nothing else is changing we will still have our regular recaps followed by a preview of the upcoming episodes with a spoilers-round up.
Enjoy the LOSTNESS!!
NOTE: The SPOILERS Section starts at the 88 Minute mark this week.
ODI LOSTcast 36 - Epi 509 Recap and Epi 510 Preview
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March 25, 2009
The Brig.
Let's Talk about LOST. The Brig.
John reads the contents of a red file by firelight. We hear the sounds of a gagged man struggling.
John tells him, "Save your breath. Nobody's gonna hear ya."
John burns the red file.
8 Days ago:
John sees that Anthony Cooper is gagged w/black gag and tied up. Ben and Richard "showed" John that this is what came out of the "magic box."
Tom is there standing guard.
Ben informs John, "You brought him here."
John says he did not.
Ben warns John about getting to close to Anthony. Tom has a zapper for protection from Anthony. John wants to know where he found him and why he brought him here. John will just ask Anthony how he got there.
Ben-"Be my guest."
John takes off Anthony's gag and Anthony bites John {Like a dog!} Tom Zaps Anthony!
Ben- "I warned you, John."
Tied up Anthony asks John in a very scary manor, "Don't you know John? Don't you know where we are?" Bitten John and the guys leave the room, leaving prisoner Anthony.
John asks Ben what Anthony meant.
Ben-"We don't have time to deal with that now."
Tom closes the door from the inside; Richard appears to lock it from the outside. {Is there another way in and out of that room? Why would Tom want to be locked in with him?}
Ben informs John they're going to a new place, "Well, an old place, actually. Would you like to come with us?"
John- "Yes."
Ben tells him they're holding Kate a few buildings over from here; maybe he'd like to say goodbye.
Sawyer is sleeping, Kate is awake. She slips away from his loving arms but it wakes him. Kate says she can't sleep if she's not in her own tent. {There is something seriously wrong with her!!!} He's fine with that; they'll go over to her tent. Apparently that not really what Kate wants.
Kate tells him "It's nothing personal, just old habits, you know?" She only lives five tents away; she can walk by herself. Sawyer has to pee anyway. Sawyer takes a gun with him. {If there's so much danger out there, why not walk her home or give her the gun?}
Sawyer catches Hurley and Jin by Hurley's tent. Coincidently they say they're going to take a leak too.
Sawyer is out in the jungle to pee. He hears noises and grabs his gun. Its Locke shinning is flashlight at Sawyer, "Hello James."
Locke asks Sawyer, "Wanna zip your pants up?"
Locke was looking for him. {His right hand is not bandaged.}
Sawyer- "Okay, Tarzan, so now that you're back from your blow up everything that can get us off the island tour, how bout you tell me why you joined up with the damn enemy?"
Locke says he didn't join them; he infiltrated them.
Sawyer- "You're undercover with the Others?"
Locke- "That's right." And James should believe that because, "A few hours ago, I snuck into Ben's tent and kidnapped him. Tied him up and dragged him into the jungle.
Sawyer- "And you came all the way back here to tell me this because…"
Locke- "Because this is the same man who tortured you, beat you, humiliated you. And I want you, to kill him."
Sawyer tells him if he wants him dead then he should kill him. Both men say they are not murderers.
John informs Sawyer, "Except for the man you killed in Sydney. They got files on us, James. All of us."
Sawyer says the files got their facts wrong.
Locke-"Then I made a mistake coming to you. Please don't tell anyone I was here."
Sawyer follows an undeterred Locke into the jungle, barefoot and all!
This pleases "Locke."
3 Days Ago:
The Others tent city.
Everyone is wearing bland colored clothes. {Not the costumes} John is there; right hand bandaged and helping Cindy put up a tent. She has fabric tied around her neck. John was glad to help her. The people of the camp give him smiles as they pass by.
Cindy tells him, "Don't mind them. They're all just excited you're here." They've been waiting for him. Tom comes over tells John Ben asking for him.
Ben in the wheelchair in his very comfortable tent is listening to the tape recorded by Juliet- "Ben, its 6am on Saturday morning. Kwon is pregnant. The fetus is healthy and was conceived on island with her husband. He was sterile before they got here."
John arrives. {Bandage hand}
Ben shuts off the tape. Ben tells him Juliet is gathering information from John's former camp for them. She's determining if any of the women are pregnant; then they're gonna go in and take them.
John-"Take them?"
Ben-"This is not the first time we've done this, John. Trust me, no one will get hurt."
Ben asks John to pass him a walking stick. Ben believes he has John to thank for this because a week ago he couldn't move his toes. But the minute "he" showed up, he began to feel pins and needles. This is only the beginning, "I can't wait to show you what this island can do. But unfortunately, you're not ready, John."
John insists he is ready.
Ben feels "You're still crippled by the memories of the man you used to be before you came to this island. You'll never be free until you release the hold your father has over you. Why do you think you brought him here?"
John mocks the magic box.
Ben reveals the "Magic box is a metaphor, John. I can't show you anything until you can show me that you're ready and willing to be one of us. When people join us here on this island, they need to make a gesture of free will, of commitment. That's why you're gonna have to kill your father."
John looks outside the tent to see Anthony tied to a huge column, while the Others are all going about their business as if he's not even there.
Charlie is in the beach kitchen/pantry; he's packing a suitcase with fruit and water. He sniffs an old jar of jelly, {Preserves} peanut butter, pineapple, and bananas.
Jack asks him, “Hey when did you get back?"
Charlie- "Last night. Well, this morning actually."
Jack asks what they were doing camping. Charlie tells him they figured they'd explore a bit, "Male bonding."
Jack lets him know the next time they go out "Sign me up."
Charlie- "Yeah, next time. Sure."
Charlie gives Jin the suitcase to take into the tent. Charlie and Hurley tell Desmond they think Jack should be told about the parachutist and check out her wound.
Des asks the guys, "Can you give me your word that Jack can be trusted, he spent 10 days with those people and nothing happened to him, and that woman he's spending time with…? Aye, Juliet 2 weeks ago she had your friends in cages. Naomi. Now your heard everything that she said. If we keep her safe, she's our way off this island. So, given that, do you trust Jack? Or don't you?"
The guys don't answer.
Desmond continues, "Right. So we'd better bring in someone we can trust.
John and James walk through the jungle. James' bare feet are bloody. James asks what else is in the file they've got on him.
John tells him, not much, "That your parents died when you were very young. But it doesn't say why your father shot your mother, or why he turned the gun on himself. {James is still} That must have been hard for ya." There's also high school transcripts, criminal record, for the con jobs he was arrested for.
John guesses that's why he uses and alias, "Why did you choose the name Sawyer?"
James snaps and hits him with the gun; knocking him to the ground and holds John's knife to his neck, "How stupid do you think I am? I already been conned by Ben once! Maybe you heard about it? Bunny with a number painted on it? Think I'm just gonna follow you through the jungle..."
John tells him he has to trust him. James demands to know where he's taking him and what he wants from him. John again insists he's doing exactly what he said, to kill Ben. James angrily asks John why he came back to get him to do it. Why won't he do it himself...And don't call him James!
John can't do it himself, “That's why I came back for you."
Sawyer-"I'll go to where ever you got him. But then we're bringing him back to our camp. I ain't killin nobody. Understand me?"
John says yes, "When you hear what 'he' has to say you'll change your mind."
Sayid is digging a hole.
Hurley-"Hey dude." {Sayid has a Band-Aid on left shoulder.} Hurley asks him if he can keep a secret.
Sayid and Hurley arrive at the tent. Charlie says Sayid gonna wanna hear what she has to say for himself; they still haven't told Jack . Desmond is happy to see Sayid.
"Her" eyes are closed. Sayid introduces himself to her, "I understand your helicopter crashed onto the island."
She says, no, it crashed into the water. Her name is Naomi Dorrit. She tells him she took off from a ship, a freighter, 80 nautical miles west of "here". She's part of a search and recovery team.
Sayid-"You told my friends the wreckage of flight 815 was discovered. Did you mean the partial wreckage?"
Naomi-"No. They found the entire plane off the coast of Bali. In an Ocean trench 4 miles deep. They sent down these cameras and these little robots to survey the wreck. The bodies were all there."
Sayid says obviously they're not dead. If she wasn't looking for them, then who was she looking for?
She says "Him." {Desmond} She goes on to say "My company was hired by a woman named Penelope Widmore. I don't know why, I never met her. She gave us a set of coordinates. We'd be conducting a differential GPS grid search ever since."
Naomi-"Island? We were given coordinates in the middle of the bloody ocean. We thought it was a fool's errand. Til three days ago. I was flying back for the ship when all of a sudden the clouds cleared and I saw land. The instruments started spinning, I realized I was going down so, I grabbed my chute and I bailed."
Sayid-"Did you actually see her helicopter?"
Desmond-"No."
She asks him if he thinks she's lying. He takes it that there's no way of communicating with that freighter of hers.
Naomi-"What was your name? Sayid? {He says yes}Remind me not to rescue you, Sayid."
John and Sawyer stop by the stream. Sawyer cools his feet in the water. He questions John about him changing his mind about killing Ben when he hears what he's got to say, "Do you wanna give me a heads up?"
John-"It's not really my place to tell ya."
Sawyer tells him what he read in that file about the guy in Sydney, "I thought he was someone else. I made a mistake. I didn't mean to kill him."
John-"Well. Who'd you mean to kill?"
Sawyer-"Are we almost there?"
John-"Almost."
Three Days Ago:
Night in Other tent city.
Tents are illuminated by the lanterns inside them. Campfires burning.
Ben pokes at John with his walking stick! John's sleeping on the ground, not in a tent. "Wake up, John. It's time."
John follows him. {Right hand bandaged}
Ben takes John to where Anthony is tied to the column.
Ben gives John a knife, "I know it won't be easy, but the quicker the better." He takes the gag out of Anthony's mouth.
Anthony says to Ben, "You're kidding me, right? You expect him to kill me?"
Ben says to John the hesitation that he's feeling is just the part of you that still feels like he has a perfectly good explanation for stealing your kidney, throwing you out an 8 story window. Don't you wanna be free from him?"
Anthony says the hesitation he feels is "because he's a spineless…."
John wants to think.
Ben- "Don't think, John."
Anthony tells Ben, "You're wasting your time, Bug Eye. Me and him have been through all this. All he wants is his daddy."
Now all the Others watch.
Anthony-"You really haven't figured it out yet, have you?"
Ben-"Let go of him, John."
John has the knife at Anthony's throat, "Why are you doing this to me?"
Ben says he's doing it to himself, "As long as he's still breathing, you’ll still be that same sad pathetic little man that was kicked off his walkabout tour, because you couldn't walk."
John can't do it.
Anthony-"I'll be here the rest of the week, John, if you change your mind."
Ben knocks out Anthony with his walking stick.
Ben takes the knife from John, says to his camp, "I'm sorry. He's not who we thought he was."
John is pissed! We see the faces of Richard, Cindy and the kids. {They are the only kids we see}
Locke leads Sawyer to the Black Rock.
Sawyer's surprised to see the ship, "Nice place you got here, Locke."{Locke!}
Locke tells him Ben's inside in the brig. Sawyer's ready.
Locke with his flashlight leads Sawyer the way. {We are looking down through a big hole. Note that they guys are wearing similar, not the same shirts}
Sawyer sees the skeletons and asks Locke, "Friends of yours?" {They just might be!}
Locke explains, "It's an old slaving ship. Mid 19th century. {Again, how does he know that?} His guess is they captured the slaves and brought them here to try and mine the island. There's dynamite in the boxes.
We hear grunts.
Sawyer-"Son of a bitch. You really kidnapped the little bastard. We aint killing him, Locke." {Again, calls him Locke!}
Locke-"Whatever you say, James." {He’s not supposed to call him James}
Locke opens the door. There's man, black bag over his head, cuffed. Sawyer leaves the knife outside the door and enters. Locke slams the door shut, leaving Sawyer in there alone with him. Sawyer bangs on the door, "Open the damn door!" {Sawyer still has his gun in the back waist of pants} Sawyer tells the bagged guy to shut up! He takes the bag off. This is not Ben! "Who the hell are you?"
Sayid tries to fix the phone.
Hurley-"Is that like a radio?"
Sayid-"It's like a radio, yes. But I've never seen equipment this sophisticated."
Hurley hopes he can make it work, "What about the other part? The part about they found the plane and we're all dead?"
Sayid tells him, one thing at a time. {WTF? Why?} Sayid gets the phone to turn on; it gets feedback and beeps. There's not a single audible channel. Whatever the interference is, it's blocking our ability to send our transmission. If we..." {The screen changes, locating channel}
Kate-"What's that? Is that a radio?" {She always has to know everything!}
Hurley lies and says he got it from the luggage. Sayid will explain it to her if she keeps it very quiet.
Sawyer's banging on the door for Locke to open it. Locke sits calm and content whittling . {Maybe he's making wooden dolls} Another door opens. It's Rousseau.
Locke-"What brings you to the Black Rock?"
She needs dynamite. All the while there is banging and yelling continuing from behind the door. "Crates are right over there" points with his flashlight. He tells her to be careful. She picks up a crate labeled "Explosives."
She doesn't ask what's going on there at all, she just gets what she came for and just leaves.
Two Days Ago:
John, right bandaged hand, sitting on a hillside overlooking the Other's tent city. He removes his bandage and sees he is healed.
Richard joins him; tells him "No matter how much time you spend on the island, you just never get tired of this view".
Richard formally introduces himself. {Richard is wearing a watch!}
Richard shares with John, "He wanted to embarrass you…Ben knew you weren't going to kill your own father. He put you in front of everyone in our camp just so they could all watch you fail….'Cause when word got back here that there was a man with a broken spine on the plane who could suddenly walk again, well... People here began to get very excited, because that could only happen to someone who was extremely special. But Ben doesn't want anyone to think you're special, John."
John wants to know why he's telling him this.
Richard reveals "Ben has been wasting our time with novelties like fertility problems. We're looking for someone to remind us that we're here for more important reasons….I want for you to find your purpose. And to do that, your father has to go, John. And since you're not gonna do it,.."
Richard takes out a red file and gives it to John; he suggests someone else.
John opens the file, "Sawyer? Why would Sawyer kill my father? He doesn't even know him." Richard tells him to keep reading. {File labeled Ford James aka Sawyer. The papers seem to be written in French or something. This is a lovely loophole, if I may say so!}
Sawyer is banging on the door. Cooper gagged. Sawyer removes the gag but wants him quiet. Sawyer through the door, he is very upset, "I'm pointing my gun at you, John Boy. You got three seconds to open this door."
John- "You're not gonna shoot anyone, James."
Sawyer counts 1, 2!
John- "If there were any bullets in that gun, why would hold a knife to my throat?"
Damn it!
Cooper-"I guess I didn't raise no dummies…It means that bald headed bastard outside the door is my son."
He claims to be John's father. {He didn't raise him!} "You do speak English?"
Sawyer is surprised, "How did you get here? To the island."
Anthony- "Island? Haha. Okay. I'm driving down I-10 through Tallahassee when, bam, somebody slams into the back of my car. I go right through into the divider at 70 miles an hour. {Not 88 mph?! Ha!} The next thing I know, the paramedics are strapping me to a gurney, stuffing me in an ambulance, and one of them actually smiles at me as he pops the I.V. in my arm. And then nothing, just black. And the next thing I know, I wake up in a dark room, tied up, gag in my mouth, And when the doors open, I'm looking up at the same man I threw out a window, John Locke, "My dead son."
Sawyer is confused. Anthony goes on to tell him John survived the toss out the window that permanently paralyzed him and also says John's dead because the plane he was flying on crashed in the Pacific.
Sawyer- "I got bad news for you Pops. 'Cause I was on that plane with your son. He sure as hell wasn't crippled. And we didn't crash in the Pacific. We crashed right here on this island." Anthony, "You sure it's an island?" {NO. It's a freighter. With a ward on it called Santa Rosa! LOL!!}
Sawyer- 'Well, what else is it?"
Anthony insinuates it is HELL.
Sawyer- "So, we're dead."
Anthony says they found their plane on the bottom of the ocean. One minute he's in a car wreck, the next he's in a pirate ship in the middle of the jungle, "If this isn't hell, friend…Then where are we?"
Anthony tells Sawyer he threw Locke out the window because he was becoming a nuisance, "I conned him into giving me one of his kidneys. He never got over it.
You can see Sawyer trying to comprehend everything that's going on. The word "con" gets to Sawyer.
Sawyer- "What's your name?"
Anthony now uses a slight southern accent, "Con man goes by many names, friend. I've been Alan Seward, Anthony Cooper, Ted MacLaren, Tom Sawyer. Lewis Jackson, Paul…{Tom Sawyer gets to Sawyer.} I was young and Huck Finn was taken. And the ladies love that one. Made me charming."
Sawyer- "How bout that?...Sawyer's my name too."
Yesterday:
Locke wakes up on the ground. {Just as if Ben never woke him the night before.} His back pack is his pillow. Everyone around him is packing up the tent city. {Wow! He can sleep through anything!}
John asks Ben what's going on. Ben, who is reading a book, tells John, "We're moving."
John asks where "we're" going?
Ben-"We are not going anywhere, John. You are going to stay behind. You both are going to stay behind."
John-"You're not taken him?" {Pointing to tied up Anthony/column}
Ben-"He's your mess, John. Why would we clean it up?"
John- "If you're trying to put me in my place or embarrass me."
Ben asks him where he would get a ridiculous idea like that." {Yeah right}
John-“You can't leave me. After everything…"
Ben- "Don't tell me what I can't do, John."
But John thought he was special. Ben tells him, everyone makes mistakes. {Not Ben} They will leave a trail, one that John can track, "And John, unless you're carrying your father's body on your back, don't bother.
Locke is still whittling. He's listening; it's quiet. Just the creaking and howl through the ship. Sawyer asks Anthony if he's ever been to Jasper Alabama.
Anthony- "Yeah. I've been to Jasper. Don't tell me I'm your daddy."
Sawyer-"No. you killed my daddy."
Anthony's face changes. Sawyer takes out the letter he wrote as a young boy to Mr. Sawyer, from his back pocket. He makes him read it. Anthony begins the letter. As he reads aloud, Sawyer is hypnotized.
Anthony mocks the letter, "So what. Is this supposed to be you? You wrote this letter? Hey, wait a second. Did you take my name because you were on some kind of revenge kick?"
Sawyer wants him to keep reading. He's getting very emotional.
Anthony- "Look I ran that con two dozen times. If your mother was one of the ladies…"
Sawyer tells him her name was Mary.
Anthony remembers her. He tells Sawyer she practically begged him to take her $38,000 and rescue her from her sorry little life. Sawyer with tears in his eyes wants him to finish the letter. Anthony says he only took her money. It's not his fault his dad overreacted. If his dad pulled the ol murder-suicide, then I'm sure he's down here somewhere. {I'm sure his is too} Sawyer yells for him to finish it! Defiant Anthony tears up the letter. Sawyer freaks and chokes him with the chain; apparently kills him.
Locke opens the door and thanks an emotional Sawyer.
Jack and Juliet sitting on the beach, eating.
Jack asks her if she's missing the cheeseburgers yet.
Juliet-"Only every second."
Kate comes over needing to talk to Jack in private. Jack tells her she can say anything in front of Juliet {WTF?} Kate's fine with her hearing, since no one wants to tell Jack, "There's a woman in Hurley's tent, who parachuted onto the island yesterday."
She explains that a woman jumped from her chopper before it crashed. {Watch Juliet here} The boat that she took off from is 80 miles off the coast and if she can find a way to contact it, we'll all be rescued. No one told Jack, because they don't trust him. {Juliet looks at Jack} Jack wants to know how. Kate said she had a phone radio thing and Sayid's trying to get it to work.
Juliet- "We should tell her."
Jack- "No…Not yet."
Jack walks away from them. The ladies just look at each other.
Sawyer pukes in the jungle.
Locke-"You can go back now."
Sawyer asks him why he did this.
Locke-"He ruined my life. And he ruined yours. And he had it coming. Juliet is a mole…She's working for Ben. He sent her back to find out which of our women were pregnant. Three days from now, there's gonna be a raid on the beach and they're gonna take them. They say they don't want anyone to get hurt."
Locke wants Sawyer to warn the camp. Locke can't warn the camp because, "I'm not going back."
Sawyer- "You're going back undercover?"
Locke-"No. I was never undercover, James. I'm on my own journey now."
Sawyer feels even though he's been trying to tell the camp that since she showed up, they won't believe him. Locke gives him the tape recorder with the notes on it that he stole from Ben, "They'll believe you now."
Sawyer asks if it's true he threw him out a window, "That you were a cripple?"
Locke-"Not anymore."
They both leave in separate directions.
Locke looks back, puts on his back pack and carries the 'sack o Anthony.'
THE BRIG IS A GREAT EPISODE!
Locke is told by Ben, as a gesture of free will and commitment that he has to kill his father. Locke can't kill his father because he can't let go of him. Locke recruits Sawyer to kill Anthony Cooper via a loophole provided by Richard. While this "may" give Sawyer a chance to close this chapter of his book, it in turns opens up another chapter for Locke. Locke is trying to con his way into knowing about the "Island." Con? Yes, con. He talks Sawyer into this deed, then takes the credit for and lies about the deed. All to show Ben he is committed to being one of them. Is Locke really "One of Them?"
The beach camp is already starting to split up into sides.
Things to note...Questions to ask.
* WAKE UP! Is everybody friggin' sleepwalking?!!!
* Hear. Listen. Look. See. Be quiet-silent-don't speak.
* Let go-purge
* Is this really Anthony Cooper? Why is he there? Who really "brought" him there? Locke "brought" him.
* John sure does a lot of 'guessing.' Or is he really "Knowing?"
* Time.
* People on the island are starting to find out that the 'outside world' thinks their all dead from the crash of flight 815.
* "I was on that plane with your son. He sure as hell wasn't crippled. Sawyer seems pretty sure about that!
* Bug.
* Father. Dad. Daddy. Pops.
* Post hypnotic suggestion? Knowing how to use words to influence people.
* Why did Richard give Locke the red file on Sawyer? What angle is he playing there? Is her really trying to help Locke, or Ben?
* Anthony Cooper. Bottle of MacCuteons. Sawyer had a bottle of the stuff in his hidden stash.
* Does Desmond know that Jack won't make the right decision? Charlie and Hurley don't trust Jack.
* Sayid, band aid on left shoulder. Gunshot from Mikhail
* Naomi must know these island residents.
* Rousseau and Locke must know each other. They always seemed like they do. Share history, perhaps?
* John wants his daddy.
* John knows a lot about the Black Rock.
* Where exactly is Ben taking his people?
* They all stick their guns in their back waistbands of their pants.
* Ben can never be far away from his books.
* Anthony describes his trip to the island. From what we've seen, basically, that is how they get to the "island". It really seems that they're never out of the "confines" of the "Island".
* Everyone is still conning everybody else!
* Robots. Cameras. Tape recorders. Books. Notes.
* Files. Retrieving (real life) documents, or 'scripted' lives?
* GPS. Tracking.
* Michael has used a very similar line to Locke. "Old Habits, You know?"
* Rose uses a similar line about "Fool's errand" in another episode.
* Watch out for Kate. She's a big tease with Sawyer. She uses and uses him! She always has her hands in everything. Island treks, investigations, searches, exploring with the guys when they want to check things out. Always has to be a part of everything! Here she finds out about Naomi, and then she runs to tell Jack, even though she said told Sayid she would keep it very quiet!
* Sawyer has his moment with "Mr. Sawyer."
* Black Rock.
* Journey. That's the truth! They're all on their own journey to enlightenment.
Vocabulary and Research…
* BRIG-In nautical terms, a brig is a vessel with 2 square-rigged masts. During the Age of Sail, brigs were seen as fast and maneuverable and were used as both naval war ships and merchant ships. While their use stretches back before the 1600s the most famous period of the brig was during the 1800's. A brig is also a type of ship which is derived from a brigantine.
-An abbreviation for the rank of Brigadier.
- A military prison or jail on a ship, navy base, or (in fiction) spacecraft.
- Military prison (This is in a building)
- The Brig Enterprise in the film Star Trek Generations.
- The Brig is a nickname for the Doctor Who character Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart.
* Jasper is an opaque, impure variety of silica, usually red, yellow or brown in color. This mineral breaks with a smooth surface, and is used for ornamentation or as a gemstone. It can be highly polished and is used for vases, seals, and at one time for snuff boxes. Jasper can appear as an opaque rock of shades of red due to mineral impurities. Patterns can arise from the formation process and from flow patterns in the sediment or volcanic ash that was saturated with silica to form jasper, yielding bands or swirls in the rock.
* The Black Rock is a hybrid laying bird originating from America. They are bred from a Rhode Island Red cockerel and a Barred Plymouth Rock hen. The birds are notable for their handsome appearance and long and productive lifespan.
-Blackrock (geology), a type of limestone.
-Blackrock(comics), an adversary of Superman's in DC Comics.
-G. B. Blackrock, a character in the Transformers comic book series
-Black Rock is a British slave ship. The Black Rock was allegedly owned and run by the British trading group the New World Sea Traders. The slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, indicating the New World Sea Traders operated in the black market. The company owned a fleet of fifteen ships, including a frigate, two sloops, and three slave ships. The Black Rock may have been one of these slave ships, though they were sold in 1882, a year after the Black Rock disappeared, suggesting the company may have had actually sixteen ships pre-1881. The New World Sea Traders was owned and operated by Magnus Hanso, a former ship's captain who became a business entrepreneur. While no direct ownership has been stated, it is known that the Black Rock sailed out of slip 23 in Portsmouth docks, and Hanso's trading group managed slips 18 to 27.
* Guest Island is a glacial island in the Ross Sea approximately 100 kilometers off the coast of Ross Dependency, Antarctica. The island part of New Zealand.
* An alias is a pseudonym, an artificial, fictitious name. Stage name.
* Alias was a "Spy-fi" television series.
* Pins and needles Paresthesia or par aesthesia. Like when your arm or leg falls asleep. Funny, this is how Jack describes Ben's tumor symptoms too. Numbness. Chronic paresthesia indicates a problem with the functioning of neurons. Or poor circulation . Paresthesia can also be a symptom of vitamin deficiency and malnutrition, as well as metabolic disorders like diabetes, hypothyroidism. Also, it could be that Nerves below the head may be compressed where chronic neck and spine problems exist and can be caused by, amongst other things, muscle cramps which may be a result of clinical anxiety or excessive mental stress, bone disease, bad posture, unsafe heavy lifting practices or physical trauma such as whiplash. Another cause can be Radiation Poisoning.
* FILE- A column of the Chessboard. A specific file can be named either using its position in algebraic notation, a–h, or by using its position in descriptive notation. For example, the f-file or the king bishop file comprises the squares f1–f8 or KB1–KB8.
* File (formation) Military term for a single column of men one in front of the other.Ranks.
* A File (Unix), a Unix program for determining the type of data contained in a computer file.
* A File (hand file) is a hand tool used to shape material by cutting.
Metaphors Galore!!! WoooooooHoooooo!
I LOVE THAT! Come back. Came back. Go back. When did you get back? I'm going back. I'm back! Over and Over again!
The Brig. Is the "Island" the "ship/vehicle" and they're all prisoners in the brig? Or is someone a Brigadier General in charge of something big?
This all can't be about "Anthony" being tied up in a broken down pirate ship. Aye! Someone please tell me!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted at MySpace on February 2008
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin!
I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
John reads the contents of a red file by firelight. We hear the sounds of a gagged man struggling.
John tells him, "Save your breath. Nobody's gonna hear ya."
John burns the red file.
8 Days ago:
John sees that Anthony Cooper is gagged w/black gag and tied up. Ben and Richard "showed" John that this is what came out of the "magic box."
Tom is there standing guard.
Ben informs John, "You brought him here."
John says he did not.
Ben warns John about getting to close to Anthony. Tom has a zapper for protection from Anthony. John wants to know where he found him and why he brought him here. John will just ask Anthony how he got there.
Ben-"Be my guest."
John takes off Anthony's gag and Anthony bites John {Like a dog!} Tom Zaps Anthony!
Ben- "I warned you, John."
Tied up Anthony asks John in a very scary manor, "Don't you know John? Don't you know where we are?" Bitten John and the guys leave the room, leaving prisoner Anthony.
John asks Ben what Anthony meant.
Ben-"We don't have time to deal with that now."
Tom closes the door from the inside; Richard appears to lock it from the outside. {Is there another way in and out of that room? Why would Tom want to be locked in with him?}
Ben informs John they're going to a new place, "Well, an old place, actually. Would you like to come with us?"
John- "Yes."
Ben tells him they're holding Kate a few buildings over from here; maybe he'd like to say goodbye.
Sawyer is sleeping, Kate is awake. She slips away from his loving arms but it wakes him. Kate says she can't sleep if she's not in her own tent. {There is something seriously wrong with her!!!} He's fine with that; they'll go over to her tent. Apparently that not really what Kate wants.
Kate tells him "It's nothing personal, just old habits, you know?" She only lives five tents away; she can walk by herself. Sawyer has to pee anyway. Sawyer takes a gun with him. {If there's so much danger out there, why not walk her home or give her the gun?}
Sawyer catches Hurley and Jin by Hurley's tent. Coincidently they say they're going to take a leak too.
Sawyer is out in the jungle to pee. He hears noises and grabs his gun. Its Locke shinning is flashlight at Sawyer, "Hello James."
Locke asks Sawyer, "Wanna zip your pants up?"
Locke was looking for him. {His right hand is not bandaged.}
Sawyer- "Okay, Tarzan, so now that you're back from your blow up everything that can get us off the island tour, how bout you tell me why you joined up with the damn enemy?"
Locke says he didn't join them; he infiltrated them.
Sawyer- "You're undercover with the Others?"
Locke- "That's right." And James should believe that because, "A few hours ago, I snuck into Ben's tent and kidnapped him. Tied him up and dragged him into the jungle.
Sawyer- "And you came all the way back here to tell me this because…"
Locke- "Because this is the same man who tortured you, beat you, humiliated you. And I want you, to kill him."
Sawyer tells him if he wants him dead then he should kill him. Both men say they are not murderers.
John informs Sawyer, "Except for the man you killed in Sydney. They got files on us, James. All of us."
Sawyer says the files got their facts wrong.
Locke-"Then I made a mistake coming to you. Please don't tell anyone I was here."
Sawyer follows an undeterred Locke into the jungle, barefoot and all!
This pleases "Locke."
3 Days Ago:
The Others tent city.
Everyone is wearing bland colored clothes. {Not the costumes} John is there; right hand bandaged and helping Cindy put up a tent. She has fabric tied around her neck. John was glad to help her. The people of the camp give him smiles as they pass by.
Cindy tells him, "Don't mind them. They're all just excited you're here." They've been waiting for him. Tom comes over tells John Ben asking for him.
Ben in the wheelchair in his very comfortable tent is listening to the tape recorded by Juliet- "Ben, its 6am on Saturday morning. Kwon is pregnant. The fetus is healthy and was conceived on island with her husband. He was sterile before they got here."
John arrives. {Bandage hand}
Ben shuts off the tape. Ben tells him Juliet is gathering information from John's former camp for them. She's determining if any of the women are pregnant; then they're gonna go in and take them.
John-"Take them?"
Ben-"This is not the first time we've done this, John. Trust me, no one will get hurt."
Ben asks John to pass him a walking stick. Ben believes he has John to thank for this because a week ago he couldn't move his toes. But the minute "he" showed up, he began to feel pins and needles. This is only the beginning, "I can't wait to show you what this island can do. But unfortunately, you're not ready, John."
John insists he is ready.
Ben feels "You're still crippled by the memories of the man you used to be before you came to this island. You'll never be free until you release the hold your father has over you. Why do you think you brought him here?"
John mocks the magic box.
Ben reveals the "Magic box is a metaphor, John. I can't show you anything until you can show me that you're ready and willing to be one of us. When people join us here on this island, they need to make a gesture of free will, of commitment. That's why you're gonna have to kill your father."
John looks outside the tent to see Anthony tied to a huge column, while the Others are all going about their business as if he's not even there.
Charlie is in the beach kitchen/pantry; he's packing a suitcase with fruit and water. He sniffs an old jar of jelly, {Preserves} peanut butter, pineapple, and bananas.
Jack asks him, “Hey when did you get back?"
Charlie- "Last night. Well, this morning actually."
Jack asks what they were doing camping. Charlie tells him they figured they'd explore a bit, "Male bonding."
Jack lets him know the next time they go out "Sign me up."
Charlie- "Yeah, next time. Sure."
Charlie gives Jin the suitcase to take into the tent. Charlie and Hurley tell Desmond they think Jack should be told about the parachutist and check out her wound.
Des asks the guys, "Can you give me your word that Jack can be trusted, he spent 10 days with those people and nothing happened to him, and that woman he's spending time with…? Aye, Juliet 2 weeks ago she had your friends in cages. Naomi. Now your heard everything that she said. If we keep her safe, she's our way off this island. So, given that, do you trust Jack? Or don't you?"
The guys don't answer.
Desmond continues, "Right. So we'd better bring in someone we can trust.
John and James walk through the jungle. James' bare feet are bloody. James asks what else is in the file they've got on him.
John tells him, not much, "That your parents died when you were very young. But it doesn't say why your father shot your mother, or why he turned the gun on himself. {James is still} That must have been hard for ya." There's also high school transcripts, criminal record, for the con jobs he was arrested for.
John guesses that's why he uses and alias, "Why did you choose the name Sawyer?"
James snaps and hits him with the gun; knocking him to the ground and holds John's knife to his neck, "How stupid do you think I am? I already been conned by Ben once! Maybe you heard about it? Bunny with a number painted on it? Think I'm just gonna follow you through the jungle..."
John tells him he has to trust him. James demands to know where he's taking him and what he wants from him. John again insists he's doing exactly what he said, to kill Ben. James angrily asks John why he came back to get him to do it. Why won't he do it himself...And don't call him James!
John can't do it himself, “That's why I came back for you."
Sawyer-"I'll go to where ever you got him. But then we're bringing him back to our camp. I ain't killin nobody. Understand me?"
John says yes, "When you hear what 'he' has to say you'll change your mind."
Sayid is digging a hole.
Hurley-"Hey dude." {Sayid has a Band-Aid on left shoulder.} Hurley asks him if he can keep a secret.
Sayid and Hurley arrive at the tent. Charlie says Sayid gonna wanna hear what she has to say for himself; they still haven't told Jack . Desmond is happy to see Sayid.
"Her" eyes are closed. Sayid introduces himself to her, "I understand your helicopter crashed onto the island."
She says, no, it crashed into the water. Her name is Naomi Dorrit. She tells him she took off from a ship, a freighter, 80 nautical miles west of "here". She's part of a search and recovery team.
Sayid-"You told my friends the wreckage of flight 815 was discovered. Did you mean the partial wreckage?"
Naomi-"No. They found the entire plane off the coast of Bali. In an Ocean trench 4 miles deep. They sent down these cameras and these little robots to survey the wreck. The bodies were all there."
Sayid says obviously they're not dead. If she wasn't looking for them, then who was she looking for?
She says "Him." {Desmond} She goes on to say "My company was hired by a woman named Penelope Widmore. I don't know why, I never met her. She gave us a set of coordinates. We'd be conducting a differential GPS grid search ever since."
Naomi-"Island? We were given coordinates in the middle of the bloody ocean. We thought it was a fool's errand. Til three days ago. I was flying back for the ship when all of a sudden the clouds cleared and I saw land. The instruments started spinning, I realized I was going down so, I grabbed my chute and I bailed."
Sayid-"Did you actually see her helicopter?"
Desmond-"No."
She asks him if he thinks she's lying. He takes it that there's no way of communicating with that freighter of hers.
Naomi-"What was your name? Sayid? {He says yes}Remind me not to rescue you, Sayid."
John and Sawyer stop by the stream. Sawyer cools his feet in the water. He questions John about him changing his mind about killing Ben when he hears what he's got to say, "Do you wanna give me a heads up?"
John-"It's not really my place to tell ya."
Sawyer tells him what he read in that file about the guy in Sydney, "I thought he was someone else. I made a mistake. I didn't mean to kill him."
John-"Well. Who'd you mean to kill?"
Sawyer-"Are we almost there?"
John-"Almost."
Three Days Ago:
Night in Other tent city.
Tents are illuminated by the lanterns inside them. Campfires burning.
Ben pokes at John with his walking stick! John's sleeping on the ground, not in a tent. "Wake up, John. It's time."
John follows him. {Right hand bandaged}
Ben takes John to where Anthony is tied to the column.
Ben gives John a knife, "I know it won't be easy, but the quicker the better." He takes the gag out of Anthony's mouth.
Anthony says to Ben, "You're kidding me, right? You expect him to kill me?"
Ben says to John the hesitation that he's feeling is just the part of you that still feels like he has a perfectly good explanation for stealing your kidney, throwing you out an 8 story window. Don't you wanna be free from him?"
Anthony says the hesitation he feels is "because he's a spineless…."
John wants to think.
Ben- "Don't think, John."
Anthony tells Ben, "You're wasting your time, Bug Eye. Me and him have been through all this. All he wants is his daddy."
Now all the Others watch.
Anthony-"You really haven't figured it out yet, have you?"
Ben-"Let go of him, John."
John has the knife at Anthony's throat, "Why are you doing this to me?"
Ben says he's doing it to himself, "As long as he's still breathing, you’ll still be that same sad pathetic little man that was kicked off his walkabout tour, because you couldn't walk."
John can't do it.
Anthony-"I'll be here the rest of the week, John, if you change your mind."
Ben knocks out Anthony with his walking stick.
Ben takes the knife from John, says to his camp, "I'm sorry. He's not who we thought he was."
John is pissed! We see the faces of Richard, Cindy and the kids. {They are the only kids we see}
Locke leads Sawyer to the Black Rock.
Sawyer's surprised to see the ship, "Nice place you got here, Locke."{Locke!}
Locke tells him Ben's inside in the brig. Sawyer's ready.
Locke with his flashlight leads Sawyer the way. {We are looking down through a big hole. Note that they guys are wearing similar, not the same shirts}
Sawyer sees the skeletons and asks Locke, "Friends of yours?" {They just might be!}
Locke explains, "It's an old slaving ship. Mid 19th century. {Again, how does he know that?} His guess is they captured the slaves and brought them here to try and mine the island. There's dynamite in the boxes.
We hear grunts.
Sawyer-"Son of a bitch. You really kidnapped the little bastard. We aint killing him, Locke." {Again, calls him Locke!}
Locke-"Whatever you say, James." {He’s not supposed to call him James}
Locke opens the door. There's man, black bag over his head, cuffed. Sawyer leaves the knife outside the door and enters. Locke slams the door shut, leaving Sawyer in there alone with him. Sawyer bangs on the door, "Open the damn door!" {Sawyer still has his gun in the back waist of pants} Sawyer tells the bagged guy to shut up! He takes the bag off. This is not Ben! "Who the hell are you?"
Sayid tries to fix the phone.
Hurley-"Is that like a radio?"
Sayid-"It's like a radio, yes. But I've never seen equipment this sophisticated."
Hurley hopes he can make it work, "What about the other part? The part about they found the plane and we're all dead?"
Sayid tells him, one thing at a time. {WTF? Why?} Sayid gets the phone to turn on; it gets feedback and beeps. There's not a single audible channel. Whatever the interference is, it's blocking our ability to send our transmission. If we..." {The screen changes, locating channel}
Kate-"What's that? Is that a radio?" {She always has to know everything!}
Hurley lies and says he got it from the luggage. Sayid will explain it to her if she keeps it very quiet.
Sawyer's banging on the door for Locke to open it. Locke sits calm and content whittling . {Maybe he's making wooden dolls} Another door opens. It's Rousseau.
Locke-"What brings you to the Black Rock?"
She needs dynamite. All the while there is banging and yelling continuing from behind the door. "Crates are right over there" points with his flashlight. He tells her to be careful. She picks up a crate labeled "Explosives."
She doesn't ask what's going on there at all, she just gets what she came for and just leaves.
Two Days Ago:
John, right bandaged hand, sitting on a hillside overlooking the Other's tent city. He removes his bandage and sees he is healed.
Richard joins him; tells him "No matter how much time you spend on the island, you just never get tired of this view".
Richard formally introduces himself. {Richard is wearing a watch!}
Richard shares with John, "He wanted to embarrass you…Ben knew you weren't going to kill your own father. He put you in front of everyone in our camp just so they could all watch you fail….'Cause when word got back here that there was a man with a broken spine on the plane who could suddenly walk again, well... People here began to get very excited, because that could only happen to someone who was extremely special. But Ben doesn't want anyone to think you're special, John."
John wants to know why he's telling him this.
Richard reveals "Ben has been wasting our time with novelties like fertility problems. We're looking for someone to remind us that we're here for more important reasons….I want for you to find your purpose. And to do that, your father has to go, John. And since you're not gonna do it,.."
Richard takes out a red file and gives it to John; he suggests someone else.
John opens the file, "Sawyer? Why would Sawyer kill my father? He doesn't even know him." Richard tells him to keep reading. {File labeled Ford James aka Sawyer. The papers seem to be written in French or something. This is a lovely loophole, if I may say so!}
Sawyer is banging on the door. Cooper gagged. Sawyer removes the gag but wants him quiet. Sawyer through the door, he is very upset, "I'm pointing my gun at you, John Boy. You got three seconds to open this door."
John- "You're not gonna shoot anyone, James."
Sawyer counts 1, 2!
John- "If there were any bullets in that gun, why would hold a knife to my throat?"
Damn it!
Cooper-"I guess I didn't raise no dummies…It means that bald headed bastard outside the door is my son."
He claims to be John's father. {He didn't raise him!} "You do speak English?"
Sawyer is surprised, "How did you get here? To the island."
Anthony- "Island? Haha. Okay. I'm driving down I-10 through Tallahassee when, bam, somebody slams into the back of my car. I go right through into the divider at 70 miles an hour. {Not 88 mph?! Ha!} The next thing I know, the paramedics are strapping me to a gurney, stuffing me in an ambulance, and one of them actually smiles at me as he pops the I.V. in my arm. And then nothing, just black. And the next thing I know, I wake up in a dark room, tied up, gag in my mouth, And when the doors open, I'm looking up at the same man I threw out a window, John Locke, "My dead son."
Sawyer is confused. Anthony goes on to tell him John survived the toss out the window that permanently paralyzed him and also says John's dead because the plane he was flying on crashed in the Pacific.
Sawyer- "I got bad news for you Pops. 'Cause I was on that plane with your son. He sure as hell wasn't crippled. And we didn't crash in the Pacific. We crashed right here on this island." Anthony, "You sure it's an island?" {NO. It's a freighter. With a ward on it called Santa Rosa! LOL!!}
Sawyer- 'Well, what else is it?"
Anthony insinuates it is HELL.
Sawyer- "So, we're dead."
Anthony says they found their plane on the bottom of the ocean. One minute he's in a car wreck, the next he's in a pirate ship in the middle of the jungle, "If this isn't hell, friend…Then where are we?"
Anthony tells Sawyer he threw Locke out the window because he was becoming a nuisance, "I conned him into giving me one of his kidneys. He never got over it.
You can see Sawyer trying to comprehend everything that's going on. The word "con" gets to Sawyer.
Sawyer- "What's your name?"
Anthony now uses a slight southern accent, "Con man goes by many names, friend. I've been Alan Seward, Anthony Cooper, Ted MacLaren, Tom Sawyer. Lewis Jackson, Paul…{Tom Sawyer gets to Sawyer.} I was young and Huck Finn was taken. And the ladies love that one. Made me charming."
Sawyer- "How bout that?...Sawyer's my name too."
Yesterday:
Locke wakes up on the ground. {Just as if Ben never woke him the night before.} His back pack is his pillow. Everyone around him is packing up the tent city. {Wow! He can sleep through anything!}
John asks Ben what's going on. Ben, who is reading a book, tells John, "We're moving."
John asks where "we're" going?
Ben-"We are not going anywhere, John. You are going to stay behind. You both are going to stay behind."
John-"You're not taken him?" {Pointing to tied up Anthony/column}
Ben-"He's your mess, John. Why would we clean it up?"
John- "If you're trying to put me in my place or embarrass me."
Ben asks him where he would get a ridiculous idea like that." {Yeah right}
John-“You can't leave me. After everything…"
Ben- "Don't tell me what I can't do, John."
But John thought he was special. Ben tells him, everyone makes mistakes. {Not Ben} They will leave a trail, one that John can track, "And John, unless you're carrying your father's body on your back, don't bother.
Locke is still whittling. He's listening; it's quiet. Just the creaking and howl through the ship. Sawyer asks Anthony if he's ever been to Jasper Alabama.
Anthony- "Yeah. I've been to Jasper. Don't tell me I'm your daddy."
Sawyer-"No. you killed my daddy."
Anthony's face changes. Sawyer takes out the letter he wrote as a young boy to Mr. Sawyer, from his back pocket. He makes him read it. Anthony begins the letter. As he reads aloud, Sawyer is hypnotized.
Anthony mocks the letter, "So what. Is this supposed to be you? You wrote this letter? Hey, wait a second. Did you take my name because you were on some kind of revenge kick?"
Sawyer wants him to keep reading. He's getting very emotional.
Anthony- "Look I ran that con two dozen times. If your mother was one of the ladies…"
Sawyer tells him her name was Mary.
Anthony remembers her. He tells Sawyer she practically begged him to take her $38,000 and rescue her from her sorry little life. Sawyer with tears in his eyes wants him to finish the letter. Anthony says he only took her money. It's not his fault his dad overreacted. If his dad pulled the ol murder-suicide, then I'm sure he's down here somewhere. {I'm sure his is too} Sawyer yells for him to finish it! Defiant Anthony tears up the letter. Sawyer freaks and chokes him with the chain; apparently kills him.
Locke opens the door and thanks an emotional Sawyer.
Jack and Juliet sitting on the beach, eating.
Jack asks her if she's missing the cheeseburgers yet.
Juliet-"Only every second."
Kate comes over needing to talk to Jack in private. Jack tells her she can say anything in front of Juliet {WTF?} Kate's fine with her hearing, since no one wants to tell Jack, "There's a woman in Hurley's tent, who parachuted onto the island yesterday."
She explains that a woman jumped from her chopper before it crashed. {Watch Juliet here} The boat that she took off from is 80 miles off the coast and if she can find a way to contact it, we'll all be rescued. No one told Jack, because they don't trust him. {Juliet looks at Jack} Jack wants to know how. Kate said she had a phone radio thing and Sayid's trying to get it to work.
Juliet- "We should tell her."
Jack- "No…Not yet."
Jack walks away from them. The ladies just look at each other.
Sawyer pukes in the jungle.
Locke-"You can go back now."
Sawyer asks him why he did this.
Locke-"He ruined my life. And he ruined yours. And he had it coming. Juliet is a mole…She's working for Ben. He sent her back to find out which of our women were pregnant. Three days from now, there's gonna be a raid on the beach and they're gonna take them. They say they don't want anyone to get hurt."
Locke wants Sawyer to warn the camp. Locke can't warn the camp because, "I'm not going back."
Sawyer- "You're going back undercover?"
Locke-"No. I was never undercover, James. I'm on my own journey now."
Sawyer feels even though he's been trying to tell the camp that since she showed up, they won't believe him. Locke gives him the tape recorder with the notes on it that he stole from Ben, "They'll believe you now."
Sawyer asks if it's true he threw him out a window, "That you were a cripple?"
Locke-"Not anymore."
They both leave in separate directions.
Locke looks back, puts on his back pack and carries the 'sack o Anthony.'
THE BRIG IS A GREAT EPISODE!
Locke is told by Ben, as a gesture of free will and commitment that he has to kill his father. Locke can't kill his father because he can't let go of him. Locke recruits Sawyer to kill Anthony Cooper via a loophole provided by Richard. While this "may" give Sawyer a chance to close this chapter of his book, it in turns opens up another chapter for Locke. Locke is trying to con his way into knowing about the "Island." Con? Yes, con. He talks Sawyer into this deed, then takes the credit for and lies about the deed. All to show Ben he is committed to being one of them. Is Locke really "One of Them?"
The beach camp is already starting to split up into sides.
Things to note...Questions to ask.
* WAKE UP! Is everybody friggin' sleepwalking?!!!
* Hear. Listen. Look. See. Be quiet-silent-don't speak.
* Let go-purge
* Is this really Anthony Cooper? Why is he there? Who really "brought" him there? Locke "brought" him.
* John sure does a lot of 'guessing.' Or is he really "Knowing?"
* Time.
* People on the island are starting to find out that the 'outside world' thinks their all dead from the crash of flight 815.
* "I was on that plane with your son. He sure as hell wasn't crippled. Sawyer seems pretty sure about that!
* Bug.
* Father. Dad. Daddy. Pops.
* Post hypnotic suggestion? Knowing how to use words to influence people.
* Why did Richard give Locke the red file on Sawyer? What angle is he playing there? Is her really trying to help Locke, or Ben?
* Anthony Cooper. Bottle of MacCuteons. Sawyer had a bottle of the stuff in his hidden stash.
* Does Desmond know that Jack won't make the right decision? Charlie and Hurley don't trust Jack.
* Sayid, band aid on left shoulder. Gunshot from Mikhail
* Naomi must know these island residents.
* Rousseau and Locke must know each other. They always seemed like they do. Share history, perhaps?
* John wants his daddy.
* John knows a lot about the Black Rock.
* Where exactly is Ben taking his people?
* They all stick their guns in their back waistbands of their pants.
* Ben can never be far away from his books.
* Anthony describes his trip to the island. From what we've seen, basically, that is how they get to the "island". It really seems that they're never out of the "confines" of the "Island".
* Everyone is still conning everybody else!
* Robots. Cameras. Tape recorders. Books. Notes.
* Files. Retrieving (real life) documents, or 'scripted' lives?
* GPS. Tracking.
* Michael has used a very similar line to Locke. "Old Habits, You know?"
* Rose uses a similar line about "Fool's errand" in another episode.
* Watch out for Kate. She's a big tease with Sawyer. She uses and uses him! She always has her hands in everything. Island treks, investigations, searches, exploring with the guys when they want to check things out. Always has to be a part of everything! Here she finds out about Naomi, and then she runs to tell Jack, even though she said told Sayid she would keep it very quiet!
* Sawyer has his moment with "Mr. Sawyer."
* Black Rock.
* Journey. That's the truth! They're all on their own journey to enlightenment.
Vocabulary and Research…
* BRIG-In nautical terms, a brig is a vessel with 2 square-rigged masts. During the Age of Sail, brigs were seen as fast and maneuverable and were used as both naval war ships and merchant ships. While their use stretches back before the 1600s the most famous period of the brig was during the 1800's. A brig is also a type of ship which is derived from a brigantine.
-An abbreviation for the rank of Brigadier.
- A military prison or jail on a ship, navy base, or (in fiction) spacecraft.
- Military prison (This is in a building)
- The Brig Enterprise in the film Star Trek Generations.
- The Brig is a nickname for the Doctor Who character Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart.
* Jasper is an opaque, impure variety of silica, usually red, yellow or brown in color. This mineral breaks with a smooth surface, and is used for ornamentation or as a gemstone. It can be highly polished and is used for vases, seals, and at one time for snuff boxes. Jasper can appear as an opaque rock of shades of red due to mineral impurities. Patterns can arise from the formation process and from flow patterns in the sediment or volcanic ash that was saturated with silica to form jasper, yielding bands or swirls in the rock.
* The Black Rock is a hybrid laying bird originating from America. They are bred from a Rhode Island Red cockerel and a Barred Plymouth Rock hen. The birds are notable for their handsome appearance and long and productive lifespan.
-Blackrock (geology), a type of limestone.
-Blackrock(comics), an adversary of Superman's in DC Comics.
-G. B. Blackrock, a character in the Transformers comic book series
-Black Rock is a British slave ship. The Black Rock was allegedly owned and run by the British trading group the New World Sea Traders. The slave trade had been outlawed in 1807, indicating the New World Sea Traders operated in the black market. The company owned a fleet of fifteen ships, including a frigate, two sloops, and three slave ships. The Black Rock may have been one of these slave ships, though they were sold in 1882, a year after the Black Rock disappeared, suggesting the company may have had actually sixteen ships pre-1881. The New World Sea Traders was owned and operated by Magnus Hanso, a former ship's captain who became a business entrepreneur. While no direct ownership has been stated, it is known that the Black Rock sailed out of slip 23 in Portsmouth docks, and Hanso's trading group managed slips 18 to 27.
* Guest Island is a glacial island in the Ross Sea approximately 100 kilometers off the coast of Ross Dependency, Antarctica. The island part of New Zealand.
* An alias is a pseudonym, an artificial, fictitious name. Stage name.
* Alias was a "Spy-fi" television series.
* Pins and needles Paresthesia or par aesthesia. Like when your arm or leg falls asleep. Funny, this is how Jack describes Ben's tumor symptoms too. Numbness. Chronic paresthesia indicates a problem with the functioning of neurons. Or poor circulation . Paresthesia can also be a symptom of vitamin deficiency and malnutrition, as well as metabolic disorders like diabetes, hypothyroidism. Also, it could be that Nerves below the head may be compressed where chronic neck and spine problems exist and can be caused by, amongst other things, muscle cramps which may be a result of clinical anxiety or excessive mental stress, bone disease, bad posture, unsafe heavy lifting practices or physical trauma such as whiplash. Another cause can be Radiation Poisoning.
* FILE- A column of the Chessboard. A specific file can be named either using its position in algebraic notation, a–h, or by using its position in descriptive notation. For example, the f-file or the king bishop file comprises the squares f1–f8 or KB1–KB8.
* File (formation) Military term for a single column of men one in front of the other.Ranks.
* A File (Unix), a Unix program for determining the type of data contained in a computer file.
* A File (hand file) is a hand tool used to shape material by cutting.
Metaphors Galore!!! WoooooooHoooooo!
I LOVE THAT! Come back. Came back. Go back. When did you get back? I'm going back. I'm back! Over and Over again!
The Brig. Is the "Island" the "ship/vehicle" and they're all prisoners in the brig? Or is someone a Brigadier General in charge of something big?
This all can't be about "Anthony" being tied up in a broken down pirate ship. Aye! Someone please tell me!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted at MySpace on February 2008
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin!
I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
D.O.C.
Let's talk about LOST! D.O.C.
Very tall palm trees; pan down to see Sun working in her garden. She hears noises coming from the jungle. It's “Jack.”
Sun- "Good morning, Jack.
{NOTE- We get a view of the area behind Sun, but we never see Jack walking there!!! Interesting, huh?!}
He went by her tent earlier, "Is Jin gone?"
She tells him he went off with Charlie, Hurley and Desmond. Jack asks her how she's doing with her pregnancy. Sun is doing fine, but a little tired; but that's normal. Jack asks her about morning sickness.
Sun-"Not anymore."
Jack-"Any bleeding?"
She wants to know why he's asking her all these questions.
Jack- "I'm just checking ya. And now that I'm back, I just wanted to make sure you were doin OK." She's OK.
{Flash}
Sun is walking across a bridge and her cell phone rings; it's Jin. He calls her Mrs. Kwon. Sun is happy. She's still not used to being called Mrs. Kwon.
Jin is dressed in an official Paik Industries lab coat/blazer; he is surrounded by boxes in their home. Jin’s on his lunch hour. Naughty Jin has prepared the bed!
He has to get back to the office.
They love each other madly.
An older woman sits next to Sun and asks her if that is her she sees in the newspaper. There is a picture of Sun and Jin for their wedding. {Yes they are dressed in traditional clothing; the picture looks old to me.} The woman congratulates the lucky bride. She then inquires about Sun's father of Paik Automotive; the very powerful family.
Sun looks suspicious of her. Sun tells her she doesn't really have much to do with the family business.
The woman then inquires about her husband's family. Sun says his parents are dead. {Really?}
Sun- "Who are you?"
This woman goes off, "It would bring such shame if it was known that Mr. Paik's daughter married the son of a fisherman."
Sun knows that and it doesn't matter. This bitch also tells her he is the son of a prostitute. The woman informs Sun, "I will be back here in three days. At 5 pm. You will bring 100 thousand dollars. {She likes American money?} If you love your husband as madly as you say, then you will spare him the shame of learning the truth."
The parachutist is trying to wake up. The blinking beacon continues to blink away.
In English Jin asks, "Who is she?"
Desmond says he has no idea.
Hurley- "She seems to know you dude. She just said your name."
Desmond has never seen her before in his life.
Charlie- "She's waking up."
She's mumbling and rambling. Hurley looks for water. The woman says something and Hurley recognizes it as Spanish. Hurley understands and translates, "She says she's dying."
The guys see blood and realize the branch pierced her side. They use supplies out of the borrowed first aid kit.
Hurley starts freaking, "What if this is a rescue? What if she came for us? We can't let her…"
Desmond tells him to start looking! {For what?}
Maybe they should get Jack. This person could be their way off the island.
Desmond-"No, if we mover her it will make it worse!"
Charlie asks if they're just gonna let her bleed to death.
Desmond says they need to bring Jack "here."
Charlie reminds him, "It's an 8 hour walk one way!"
Desmond-"Then I'll run." {WTF?}
Charlie thinks he's out of his mind; It's not safe and it'll be dark soon. Who knows who's out in this jungle? "In case you've forgotten, there are people on this island trying to kill us!"
Desmond-"Nobody knows we're here!" {Well, there it is!!!}
Hurley shoots off the flare gun, "Oooops”. {Convenient. Wasn't that?}
{Flash.}
Sun sits on the floor of the apartment; surrounded by boxes and looking at a picture. The door opens and she puts the picture down. Jin surprises her with her favorite tofu soup. She asks him if he minds her putting photo's on a table.
Not at all.
One photo is of Sun dressed in a graduation cap and gown; with a man and a woman. She asks if he has any pictures of his family.
Jin shares they didn't have a camera growing up. Sun wonders if his father left any.
Jin tells her he was in the army when he died so No Pictures!
She questions his army statement, "You said you were 16 when your father died."
Jin insists he was in the army when he died. She must have misunderstood.
Her soups getting cold.
Sun and Kate tie things up at the tent.
Sun asks her, "What do you think happened to Jack when he was with the Others? Since he's been back, he seems different."
Kate tells her Jack said he was pretty much a prisoner. He just cooperated because he thought they'd let him off the island.
Sun-"Do you believe him?"
Why wouldn't she?
Sun tells her Jack came to her asking about her pregnancy, "What if the Others want my baby?" He's been there alone for over a week; how do they know he's not working with them?
Kate feels he's not. Sun wants to know what she knows. Kate shares what she knows about their fertility Doctor; Juliet studying pregnant women. "When Claire was sick she told me and Jack, the Others wanted her baby for research.”
Angry Sun confronts Juliet about her research, "What happens to pregnant women?"
Juliet asks her how she knows she's pregnant. {Of course Juliet already knows!} Even though Juliet has made herself at home on the beach Sun demands answers, "What are you people doing? Why are you taking children? What happens to pregnant women on this island?"
Juliet- "They all die."
The parachutist is still rambling but in different languages. Hurley asks what she is saying.
Jin says it's Chinese not Korean. {Translation- What's happened? or what’s going on?}
Charlie suggests pulling out the stick that has injured her but Desmond doesn't want to make it worse.
Charlie- “You’ve forgotten what's at stake here. It's just another one of your Flashes. Who's getting an arrow in the neck this time?"
Desmond freaks, "Lest you forget, she said my bloody name! She had a photo of me and my girlfriend! Do I understand? I understand better than the lot of you!"
Hurley tells the guys to "Chill."
Desmond wants to go; Now he wants Charlie out of his way. They hear noises coming from the jungle.
Desmond readies with a machete. Out of the jungle comes Mikhail. {A coincidence?!} They all look at each other. Mikhail runs back into the jungle and the guys run after him. {Pretty far in too.}
Hurley stays behind.
Jin tackles Mikhail and they fight. Jin kicks his ass and puts him a dramatic headlock! {Everybody Was King Foo Fighting!} The very next thing is Desmond has Mikhail up against a tree, "Who are you?"
Charlie says it's the guy who shot Sayid.
Patch gives Charlie a nasty look with his one eye!
Charlie-"Kate told us he lived down at that station Locke blew up. He's an Other."
Hurley-"I thought Locke killed that guy with the electro fence thingy?"
Patch gives a smirk.
Desmond gives him "5 seconds to talk", or he fires this gun, brother.
Mikhail-"That's a flare gun."
Desmond-"How do you think it'll feel taking a flare to the chest at this range?"
Mikhail-"As your friend pointed out. I already died once this week."
The parachutist is rambling again. {They are only a few feet away from her. They were all in the jungle a few moments ago! WTF?!}
Desmond notices that Mikhail understands her. She is speaking Italian.
Mikhail translates, "She says she dying. She needs help." {He’s paraphrasing, but close enough} He tells them he was a Soviet army field medic, he can help. Desmond lets him help but still holds the flare gun at him. Mikhail says the branch has punctured her lung and it's filling with blood. If it's not ventilated soon she will die.
Mikhail- "If I fix her. You must let me walk away as if I never came upon you."
Apparently that's cool with everyone.
Sun sits on the beach staring out over the ocean. Campfire burning. She looks over at Claire and the baby.
{Flash.}
Fishing village:
Sun walks down a dock to speak with Jin’s very happy father. {This has got to be the happiest man I've ever seen. He truly has such light in his eyes!}
Sun has a gray/silver file. {Namhae} Mr. Kwon has a newspaper clipping of their wedding on the wall, pictures of Jin in the army, awards/citations, and a karate trophy. They have tea.
{Although it looks like hot water. Also note the bamboo room divider. It looks like bars in a cell.}
He wants to hear all about the wedding.
It was the happiest day, ever! Sun asks why he wasn't at the wedding and also shares that Jin told her he was dead.
Mr. Kwon tells her Jin said this to avoid the shame of where he came from.
Sun- "Is that why you told him his mother died when he was a baby?"
He doesn't answer. He pours some liquor into dark colored cups. The tea was in light colored cups. He politely tells her she was with many men! She left him with the baby; he raised him alone, "I wasn't even sure if I was the father. Who else would take care of him?"
He wipes his right hand off on his shirt and tenderly lifts Sun's chin and tells her she is beautiful. It pleases him very much that he met her. But "he" could never know about their meeting or that his mother is still alive. He begs her, for him. So that Jin will never suffer the shame.
Net.
Night. Shadow.
Sun's mouth is covered. Juliet tells her to be quiet, "Don't move. You want me to help you and your baby. I have answers to your questions. But you have to come with me. If what Juliet told Sun is true, then she's already dead. Why should she go with her?
Juliet-"Because there may be hope for you yet."
Juliet holds out her hand for Sun to take it.
Juliet and Sun carry their torches through the jungle. Juliet tells her "There's a medical station near here. They have an ultrasound machine."
Sun tells her that Claire and Kate told her about that place; it was abandoned. They found nothing there.
Juliet-"That's because they didn't know where to look."
Sun wants to know what she is going to do to her. Juliet is going to look at your baby and determine the DOC. Um. Date of conception. The ultrasound will tell her when she got pregnant. Give or take a day."
Sun looks concerned. {Give or take a day! Bullshit! Results aren't that precise} ”If you got pregnant off the island, you and your baby will probably be OK. But if you got pregnant here…We'll cross that bridge when we come to it." {Mind games, people!} She asks the last time she and Jin had sex. Sun won't answer that personal question. The machine will tell them that answer. So keep walking!
{Flash.}
Sun heads in to see her father at his very important office, Paik 'Heavy' Industries. She looks up the long flight of stairs and takes a deep breath. {She is wearing black, white and red. Pearl earrings}
In his office there are old car/vehicle replicas. Mr. Paik is speaking with three men. The secretary announces her although Sun walked in ahead of her. The men congratulate Sun on her wedding.
Mr. Paik is happy to see her.
Sun needs a favor. {Pretty box on his desk} She asks him for 100 thousand dollars but she can't tell him what it's for. He asks her why he should give her the money without an explanation.
Sun-"Because my whole life I've pretended not to know what you do. I've allowed you to keep your control over me. I pretend that everything is alright. I will continue pretending, As long as you give me the money I am asking for. No questions asked."
Mr. Paik-"We do not live in a world where there are no questions asked."
Sun explains she is doing this to spare someone she loves deep shame.
Paik- "Your new husband? {Does she have an old husband? Lol} He opens the safe using a keypad/code. He stuffs the cash into a manila envelope.
Paik- "If this money is for your husband, it is he who will bear this debt. He will no longer be a floor manager. He will be working for me."
He tosses the envelope on the table. She looks at it and takes it.
In the dark jungle Jin and the guys have lit torches.
Mikhail tends to the parachutist. He asks "What else do you know about this women? Did she have anything on her besides the flare gun?"
Hurley spills the beans and says a book and a fancy radio phone. Mikhail asks if it works.
Charlie gives Hurley the "What the hell did you open your big mouth for?" look.
Mikhail needs someone to help him, "The rest clear the way. I need space."
With Mikhail on one side of her and Des on the other, the woman freaks and grabs them; looking at Desmond.
Mikhail tells him to hold her steady! He plunges a syringe into the woman; blood everywhere! {Mikhail sounds like he's piloting a ship with that dialog!} He pulls the stick/branch out of her and he tells Desmond to tape up the wound. The wound needs to breathe.
She mumbles something to Mikhail. He tells Desmond she said “Thank you for helping me."
Juliet informs Sun, "Its right down here."
Juliet removes vines from the double doors. {I don't recall Kate, Claire and Danielle covering that back up? Did they? If not, how much time could have passed with the re-growth or re-covering of vines?}
Juliet opens the double doors and Sun looks down. You can see faint light flicker. There is sconce lighting along the corridor. Juliet turns on all the power. Sun's attention is to double doors at the end of the hallway. You can see it's the procedure room Claire was in with Ethan. The medicine refrigerator is on the floor.
Sun asks her why she's helping.
Juliet-"Once upon a time, I told women that they were pregnant. And their faces… it was the best news they ever got in their entire life. Then I came here. I've lost nine patients in the last three years. I'm helping you because I want to tell you that and your husband you got pregnant before you came here. I'm helping you because I want to give good news again."
Sun confesses she slept with another man before they got to the island. She and Jin were having trouble; she made a mistake.
Juliet-“We all make mistakes."
Sun- "Which way?"
They enter the locker room. Juliet opens a locker, pulls a hidden level to reveal a secret door. Sun helps her move the short lockers forward. They push open a huge door. {This door is meant to seal off something big!}
This appears to be a secret treatment room. Also in this run down room is all the nursery items and furniture that were in Claire's Flashes with Ethan, yet the room is eerily prepared for Juliet's exam of Sun. Sun asks why the room is hidden.
Juliet-"Don't worry about it."
Sun-"What is this place?"
Juliet- "It’s where we brought the women to die."
Mikhail tells the guys she's fine, "She should be better in a day."
Charlie- "A day?"
Mikhail-"On this Island the wounds are a bit different. Maybe a day and a half." {Are there different Islands? If so, do wounds heal differently on different Islands? Don't laugh. I didn't say it! He said it!!}
Mikhail did as he promised and she will live. So Desmond lets him go.
Charlie's pissed. "Are you kidding, he's one of them."
Desmond-"So what would you have me do Charlie? We gotta make a stretcher and carry, how we gonna do that and bring a prisoner."
Charlie-"We need some rope, I'll take responsibility."
Jin looks through the bag and realizes that Mikhail took the phone! Desmond tells pissed off Jin it's alright.
Charlie-"No, let him, Desmond."
Desmond is trying to get Jin to let Mikhail go!
Jin retrieves the phone from Mikhail.
Charlie-"You stole this."
Mikhail-"How could you respect me if I didn't try?"
Charlie-"How about I take your other eye? Would you respect that?" {Is Charlie responsible for Patchy's Patch?}
Mikhail- "Sorry. What?" tauntingly making like he can't hear Charlie. Charlie yells that this is a mistake; they can't keep letting these people go!
Desmond wants to keep his word so Des lets him go. Mikhail gives Charlie some look!
"The baby isn't Jin's" Sun tells Juliet. She goes on to tell about the doctor in Korea who said Jin was infertile. {Maybe he friggin lied!} And then she came there. {To the "Island"}
Juliet gives her a sperm lesson, "Did you know that the average male sperm count is between 60 and 80 million? But on this Island it's 5 times that." {Holy Sperm, Batman!} Juliet starts the ultrasound. She tells Sun "It's cold." {Regarding the gel}
Sun asks if she'll see the baby.
Juliet-"Maybe. It's your first trimester, so it's a little iffy." {WTF?} She also tells her if she doesn't see a heartbeat not to worry, it's just early. {What medical school did this idiot go to?} Then she goes on to say she'll take a measurement of the fetus that will tell when the baby was conceived, and then we'll know "who".
Sun says she'll lose either way, "If I'm going to live, that means the baby's not Jin's."
She still wants the answer.
Moment of truth.
{Flash}
Sun is in her bedroom. Jin home. He heard she came by the office today, he would have liked to see her. Jin asks for the mail; it's in her purse. She freaks because Jin finds the manila envelope of money. Sun tells him it's from her father for furniture and a nice honeymoon. Jin wants to be the provider for them. He feels it may take longer, but he can take care of her. He wants her to give it back, "I don't want to be in your father's debt any more than we already are."
She loves him madly. She puts the money back in her purse.
Sun is getting her ultrasound.
Heartbeat.
There is the baby.
Juliet-"Do you see this little flutter? That's the heart beating….You crashed here 90 days ago. The baby was conceived about 8 weeks ago, so 53 days."
Juliet tells her she conceived on the Island.
Sun cries; she is happy because it is Jin's. {For the most part, this machine has no measuring info on the screen, no dates, and no numbers}
Sun meets the older woman by the bridge. The older woman was starting to think Sun wouldn't come. Sun gives her the envelope, "Why didn't you tell me you were Jin's mother?”
The woman says she gave birth to him, that doesn't make her his mother.
Sun-"You know how powerful my family is. My husband believes you are dead. Don't force me to make that a reality."
Daylight.
Sun exit's the double doors of the underground medical station. She asks Juliet how long does she have. Juliet tells her most of the woman made it into the middle of their second trimester. Nobody made it to their 3rd. So that gives Sun two months. Sun is just happy the baby is Jin's and Juliet is happy she gave Sun good news.
Juliet- "It was my pleasure, Sun. I'm gonna go back inside and make sure that I didn't miss anything, I don't wanna take the chance that we didn't cover our tracks. Do you wanna wait out here?"
Sun will wait outside. She thanks Juliet. Sun looks up toward the sky.
Juliet heads back down into the secret lair. She uses a little tape recorder to record notes, "Ben. It's 6 am on Saturday morning. Kwon is pregnant. The fetus is healthy and was conceived on Island with her husband. He was sterile before they got here. I'm still working on getting samples from the other women. I should have Austen's soon. I'll report back when I know more."
She shuts off the tape and says "I hate you."
Daylight.
The guys are making a stretcher to carry the parachutist. Charlie continues on about not trusting the Others, the one Desmond let go will be back with 5 of his mates tomorrow, "We should've killed him."
Desmond-"You know brother, by my count, you've killed more of them than they've killed of you." {That is a FANTASTIC line!!!}
Charlie-"They started it. Just because one comes traipsing back with Jack and Kate doesn't mean we can trust them now."
Hurley is sitting away from them fiddling with the phone thingy. He actually dials the phone holds it to his ear, listens, waits, and says "Mom?" {HOLY SHIT!}
He is with the injured woman; She starts waking up and asks him where she is.
Hurley doesn't know, "You're on an island. Are you here to rescue us? Are there more of you? Can you make your phone work?"
The woman- "Who are you?"
He says he's Hugo Reyes, "I crashed here on Oceanic flight 815. A bunch of us survived. Is that why you're here? Were you looking for us?"
The woman- "815? Flight 815 the one from Sydney? No. That's not possible."
He agrees, it wasn't easy. They found food and the hatch and more food…
She-"No. Flight 815...They, they found the plane. There were no survivors. They were all dead."
Hurley-"What?"
D.O.C. is a GREAT EPISODE! To me Doc relates to Jack.
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* We get a view of the area behind Sun but we never see Jack walking there!!! Is this really Jack? Maybe it's Vincent or...
* Jack is known as Doc.
* Could 'Jack' know more about the 'Island' mothers and their babies?
* Learn. Education. Graduation.
* Red. White. Black.
* What's with Hurley? He 'accidentally' fired the flare gun, opens his big mouth to Mikhail about the phone, and tells the injured girl they found the hatch! All that and he doesn't pass out at the sight of blood, not once! Come on!! We know Hurley's a fainter!
* Why are they checking all the women for pregnancy? What is the real issue with pregnancy and the "Island"? Is there some funky way their getting pregnant? How will we ever know what the truthful issue is with reproduction there?!
* "Thank you for helping me." No! She said "I'm not alone" to Mikhail. The night this originally aired, I called my Portuguese friend and he translated this for me! Next question… Do these 2 multi-lingual people know each other?
* Languages. Spoken and understood.
* Portuguese is a language that is a combination of many languages.
* Sun bribes her father.
* Do manila envelopes contain bribes?
* Life: Fertility. Egg. Parentage. Conception. DNA. 'Flutter.' Surrogates. Carriers. Breeding. Is there some sort of replicating and/or combining of DNA going on? Are there frozen embryos or eggs or even sperm somewhere? Could that be where our Cold or Chill, clues come in? Why do “mothers” get deadly conditions that kill them? It's really driving me crazy that I can't pinpoint the "COLD" clue!! Aahhhhhh!!!!
* Creating. Nurturing.
* Why would they hide that room in the medical station? How many other "hidden rooms" are there?
* With things being able to be implanted into people there, how many other things are we seeing that can be due to these types of physical manipulations?
* Dead. Not Dead. Assuming people are dead. But they are not.
* Do Charlie and Mikhail share a past?
* Reference to Sayid being shot, in the left shoulder I might add! That'll come back around!
* Soup. Supe-as in the Superman-Flash conversation Hurley has with Charlie in Catch 22.
* This injured parachutist can heal from life threatening injuries. Don't forget that! Mikhail said so!
* What makes Hurley so special?!!
Vocabulary and Research...
* D.O.C. Date of conception.
- DOC. Short for Doctor.
- Department of Corrections.
- Drug of Choice- the appropriate medication prescribed in any given circumstance.
- D.O.C.- 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine or 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine or 4-Chloro-2,5-DMA or DOC is a psychedelic hallucinogenic drug of the phenethylamine family. Unlike simple amphetamines, DOC is a psychedelic that resembles LSD, DOB, and mescaline. These effects include open and closed eye visuals, increased awareness of sound and movement and euphoria.
- Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII is a third person shooter and RPG which is a sequel to the popular 1997 video game Final Fantasy VII.
D.O.C.. Hmmmmm.... Maybe a Doc-tor gives them their drug of choice, preferably some DOC, to convince a woman of her date of conception, while she's playing Dirge of Cerberus in Final Fantasy VII with her day old cockerel falcon on her shoulder? I hope that made you giggle?! No seriously… I can't wait for the reveal about offspring and the Island!
Love to all who are "LOST" ™
Posted at MySpace on February 2008
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
Very tall palm trees; pan down to see Sun working in her garden. She hears noises coming from the jungle. It's “Jack.”
Sun- "Good morning, Jack.
{NOTE- We get a view of the area behind Sun, but we never see Jack walking there!!! Interesting, huh?!}
He went by her tent earlier, "Is Jin gone?"
She tells him he went off with Charlie, Hurley and Desmond. Jack asks her how she's doing with her pregnancy. Sun is doing fine, but a little tired; but that's normal. Jack asks her about morning sickness.
Sun-"Not anymore."
Jack-"Any bleeding?"
She wants to know why he's asking her all these questions.
Jack- "I'm just checking ya. And now that I'm back, I just wanted to make sure you were doin OK." She's OK.
{Flash}
Sun is walking across a bridge and her cell phone rings; it's Jin. He calls her Mrs. Kwon. Sun is happy. She's still not used to being called Mrs. Kwon.
Jin is dressed in an official Paik Industries lab coat/blazer; he is surrounded by boxes in their home. Jin’s on his lunch hour. Naughty Jin has prepared the bed!
He has to get back to the office.
They love each other madly.
An older woman sits next to Sun and asks her if that is her she sees in the newspaper. There is a picture of Sun and Jin for their wedding. {Yes they are dressed in traditional clothing; the picture looks old to me.} The woman congratulates the lucky bride. She then inquires about Sun's father of Paik Automotive; the very powerful family.
Sun looks suspicious of her. Sun tells her she doesn't really have much to do with the family business.
The woman then inquires about her husband's family. Sun says his parents are dead. {Really?}
Sun- "Who are you?"
This woman goes off, "It would bring such shame if it was known that Mr. Paik's daughter married the son of a fisherman."
Sun knows that and it doesn't matter. This bitch also tells her he is the son of a prostitute. The woman informs Sun, "I will be back here in three days. At 5 pm. You will bring 100 thousand dollars. {She likes American money?} If you love your husband as madly as you say, then you will spare him the shame of learning the truth."
The parachutist is trying to wake up. The blinking beacon continues to blink away.
In English Jin asks, "Who is she?"
Desmond says he has no idea.
Hurley- "She seems to know you dude. She just said your name."
Desmond has never seen her before in his life.
Charlie- "She's waking up."
She's mumbling and rambling. Hurley looks for water. The woman says something and Hurley recognizes it as Spanish. Hurley understands and translates, "She says she's dying."
The guys see blood and realize the branch pierced her side. They use supplies out of the borrowed first aid kit.
Hurley starts freaking, "What if this is a rescue? What if she came for us? We can't let her…"
Desmond tells him to start looking! {For what?}
Maybe they should get Jack. This person could be their way off the island.
Desmond-"No, if we mover her it will make it worse!"
Charlie asks if they're just gonna let her bleed to death.
Desmond says they need to bring Jack "here."
Charlie reminds him, "It's an 8 hour walk one way!"
Desmond-"Then I'll run." {WTF?}
Charlie thinks he's out of his mind; It's not safe and it'll be dark soon. Who knows who's out in this jungle? "In case you've forgotten, there are people on this island trying to kill us!"
Desmond-"Nobody knows we're here!" {Well, there it is!!!}
Hurley shoots off the flare gun, "Oooops”. {Convenient. Wasn't that?}
{Flash.}
Sun sits on the floor of the apartment; surrounded by boxes and looking at a picture. The door opens and she puts the picture down. Jin surprises her with her favorite tofu soup. She asks him if he minds her putting photo's on a table.
Not at all.
One photo is of Sun dressed in a graduation cap and gown; with a man and a woman. She asks if he has any pictures of his family.
Jin shares they didn't have a camera growing up. Sun wonders if his father left any.
Jin tells her he was in the army when he died so No Pictures!
She questions his army statement, "You said you were 16 when your father died."
Jin insists he was in the army when he died. She must have misunderstood.
Her soups getting cold.
Sun and Kate tie things up at the tent.
Sun asks her, "What do you think happened to Jack when he was with the Others? Since he's been back, he seems different."
Kate tells her Jack said he was pretty much a prisoner. He just cooperated because he thought they'd let him off the island.
Sun-"Do you believe him?"
Why wouldn't she?
Sun tells her Jack came to her asking about her pregnancy, "What if the Others want my baby?" He's been there alone for over a week; how do they know he's not working with them?
Kate feels he's not. Sun wants to know what she knows. Kate shares what she knows about their fertility Doctor; Juliet studying pregnant women. "When Claire was sick she told me and Jack, the Others wanted her baby for research.”
Angry Sun confronts Juliet about her research, "What happens to pregnant women?"
Juliet asks her how she knows she's pregnant. {Of course Juliet already knows!} Even though Juliet has made herself at home on the beach Sun demands answers, "What are you people doing? Why are you taking children? What happens to pregnant women on this island?"
Juliet- "They all die."
The parachutist is still rambling but in different languages. Hurley asks what she is saying.
Jin says it's Chinese not Korean. {Translation- What's happened? or what’s going on?}
Charlie suggests pulling out the stick that has injured her but Desmond doesn't want to make it worse.
Charlie- “You’ve forgotten what's at stake here. It's just another one of your Flashes. Who's getting an arrow in the neck this time?"
Desmond freaks, "Lest you forget, she said my bloody name! She had a photo of me and my girlfriend! Do I understand? I understand better than the lot of you!"
Hurley tells the guys to "Chill."
Desmond wants to go; Now he wants Charlie out of his way. They hear noises coming from the jungle.
Desmond readies with a machete. Out of the jungle comes Mikhail. {A coincidence?!} They all look at each other. Mikhail runs back into the jungle and the guys run after him. {Pretty far in too.}
Hurley stays behind.
Jin tackles Mikhail and they fight. Jin kicks his ass and puts him a dramatic headlock! {Everybody Was King Foo Fighting!} The very next thing is Desmond has Mikhail up against a tree, "Who are you?"
Charlie says it's the guy who shot Sayid.
Patch gives Charlie a nasty look with his one eye!
Charlie-"Kate told us he lived down at that station Locke blew up. He's an Other."
Hurley-"I thought Locke killed that guy with the electro fence thingy?"
Patch gives a smirk.
Desmond gives him "5 seconds to talk", or he fires this gun, brother.
Mikhail-"That's a flare gun."
Desmond-"How do you think it'll feel taking a flare to the chest at this range?"
Mikhail-"As your friend pointed out. I already died once this week."
The parachutist is rambling again. {They are only a few feet away from her. They were all in the jungle a few moments ago! WTF?!}
Desmond notices that Mikhail understands her. She is speaking Italian.
Mikhail translates, "She says she dying. She needs help." {He’s paraphrasing, but close enough} He tells them he was a Soviet army field medic, he can help. Desmond lets him help but still holds the flare gun at him. Mikhail says the branch has punctured her lung and it's filling with blood. If it's not ventilated soon she will die.
Mikhail- "If I fix her. You must let me walk away as if I never came upon you."
Apparently that's cool with everyone.
Sun sits on the beach staring out over the ocean. Campfire burning. She looks over at Claire and the baby.
{Flash.}
Fishing village:
Sun walks down a dock to speak with Jin’s very happy father. {This has got to be the happiest man I've ever seen. He truly has such light in his eyes!}
Sun has a gray/silver file. {Namhae} Mr. Kwon has a newspaper clipping of their wedding on the wall, pictures of Jin in the army, awards/citations, and a karate trophy. They have tea.
{Although it looks like hot water. Also note the bamboo room divider. It looks like bars in a cell.}
He wants to hear all about the wedding.
It was the happiest day, ever! Sun asks why he wasn't at the wedding and also shares that Jin told her he was dead.
Mr. Kwon tells her Jin said this to avoid the shame of where he came from.
Sun- "Is that why you told him his mother died when he was a baby?"
He doesn't answer. He pours some liquor into dark colored cups. The tea was in light colored cups. He politely tells her she was with many men! She left him with the baby; he raised him alone, "I wasn't even sure if I was the father. Who else would take care of him?"
He wipes his right hand off on his shirt and tenderly lifts Sun's chin and tells her she is beautiful. It pleases him very much that he met her. But "he" could never know about their meeting or that his mother is still alive. He begs her, for him. So that Jin will never suffer the shame.
Net.
Night. Shadow.
Sun's mouth is covered. Juliet tells her to be quiet, "Don't move. You want me to help you and your baby. I have answers to your questions. But you have to come with me. If what Juliet told Sun is true, then she's already dead. Why should she go with her?
Juliet-"Because there may be hope for you yet."
Juliet holds out her hand for Sun to take it.
Juliet and Sun carry their torches through the jungle. Juliet tells her "There's a medical station near here. They have an ultrasound machine."
Sun tells her that Claire and Kate told her about that place; it was abandoned. They found nothing there.
Juliet-"That's because they didn't know where to look."
Sun wants to know what she is going to do to her. Juliet is going to look at your baby and determine the DOC. Um. Date of conception. The ultrasound will tell her when she got pregnant. Give or take a day."
Sun looks concerned. {Give or take a day! Bullshit! Results aren't that precise} ”If you got pregnant off the island, you and your baby will probably be OK. But if you got pregnant here…We'll cross that bridge when we come to it." {Mind games, people!} She asks the last time she and Jin had sex. Sun won't answer that personal question. The machine will tell them that answer. So keep walking!
{Flash.}
Sun heads in to see her father at his very important office, Paik 'Heavy' Industries. She looks up the long flight of stairs and takes a deep breath. {She is wearing black, white and red. Pearl earrings}
In his office there are old car/vehicle replicas. Mr. Paik is speaking with three men. The secretary announces her although Sun walked in ahead of her. The men congratulate Sun on her wedding.
Mr. Paik is happy to see her.
Sun needs a favor. {Pretty box on his desk} She asks him for 100 thousand dollars but she can't tell him what it's for. He asks her why he should give her the money without an explanation.
Sun-"Because my whole life I've pretended not to know what you do. I've allowed you to keep your control over me. I pretend that everything is alright. I will continue pretending, As long as you give me the money I am asking for. No questions asked."
Mr. Paik-"We do not live in a world where there are no questions asked."
Sun explains she is doing this to spare someone she loves deep shame.
Paik- "Your new husband? {Does she have an old husband? Lol} He opens the safe using a keypad/code. He stuffs the cash into a manila envelope.
Paik- "If this money is for your husband, it is he who will bear this debt. He will no longer be a floor manager. He will be working for me."
He tosses the envelope on the table. She looks at it and takes it.
In the dark jungle Jin and the guys have lit torches.
Mikhail tends to the parachutist. He asks "What else do you know about this women? Did she have anything on her besides the flare gun?"
Hurley spills the beans and says a book and a fancy radio phone. Mikhail asks if it works.
Charlie gives Hurley the "What the hell did you open your big mouth for?" look.
Mikhail needs someone to help him, "The rest clear the way. I need space."
With Mikhail on one side of her and Des on the other, the woman freaks and grabs them; looking at Desmond.
Mikhail tells him to hold her steady! He plunges a syringe into the woman; blood everywhere! {Mikhail sounds like he's piloting a ship with that dialog!} He pulls the stick/branch out of her and he tells Desmond to tape up the wound. The wound needs to breathe.
She mumbles something to Mikhail. He tells Desmond she said “Thank you for helping me."
Juliet informs Sun, "Its right down here."
Juliet removes vines from the double doors. {I don't recall Kate, Claire and Danielle covering that back up? Did they? If not, how much time could have passed with the re-growth or re-covering of vines?}
Juliet opens the double doors and Sun looks down. You can see faint light flicker. There is sconce lighting along the corridor. Juliet turns on all the power. Sun's attention is to double doors at the end of the hallway. You can see it's the procedure room Claire was in with Ethan. The medicine refrigerator is on the floor.
Sun asks her why she's helping.
Juliet-"Once upon a time, I told women that they were pregnant. And their faces… it was the best news they ever got in their entire life. Then I came here. I've lost nine patients in the last three years. I'm helping you because I want to tell you that and your husband you got pregnant before you came here. I'm helping you because I want to give good news again."
Sun confesses she slept with another man before they got to the island. She and Jin were having trouble; she made a mistake.
Juliet-“We all make mistakes."
Sun- "Which way?"
They enter the locker room. Juliet opens a locker, pulls a hidden level to reveal a secret door. Sun helps her move the short lockers forward. They push open a huge door. {This door is meant to seal off something big!}
This appears to be a secret treatment room. Also in this run down room is all the nursery items and furniture that were in Claire's Flashes with Ethan, yet the room is eerily prepared for Juliet's exam of Sun. Sun asks why the room is hidden.
Juliet-"Don't worry about it."
Sun-"What is this place?"
Juliet- "It’s where we brought the women to die."
Mikhail tells the guys she's fine, "She should be better in a day."
Charlie- "A day?"
Mikhail-"On this Island the wounds are a bit different. Maybe a day and a half." {Are there different Islands? If so, do wounds heal differently on different Islands? Don't laugh. I didn't say it! He said it!!}
Mikhail did as he promised and she will live. So Desmond lets him go.
Charlie's pissed. "Are you kidding, he's one of them."
Desmond-"So what would you have me do Charlie? We gotta make a stretcher and carry, how we gonna do that and bring a prisoner."
Charlie-"We need some rope, I'll take responsibility."
Jin looks through the bag and realizes that Mikhail took the phone! Desmond tells pissed off Jin it's alright.
Charlie-"No, let him, Desmond."
Desmond is trying to get Jin to let Mikhail go!
Jin retrieves the phone from Mikhail.
Charlie-"You stole this."
Mikhail-"How could you respect me if I didn't try?"
Charlie-"How about I take your other eye? Would you respect that?" {Is Charlie responsible for Patchy's Patch?}
Mikhail- "Sorry. What?" tauntingly making like he can't hear Charlie. Charlie yells that this is a mistake; they can't keep letting these people go!
Desmond wants to keep his word so Des lets him go. Mikhail gives Charlie some look!
"The baby isn't Jin's" Sun tells Juliet. She goes on to tell about the doctor in Korea who said Jin was infertile. {Maybe he friggin lied!} And then she came there. {To the "Island"}
Juliet gives her a sperm lesson, "Did you know that the average male sperm count is between 60 and 80 million? But on this Island it's 5 times that." {Holy Sperm, Batman!} Juliet starts the ultrasound. She tells Sun "It's cold." {Regarding the gel}
Sun asks if she'll see the baby.
Juliet-"Maybe. It's your first trimester, so it's a little iffy." {WTF?} She also tells her if she doesn't see a heartbeat not to worry, it's just early. {What medical school did this idiot go to?} Then she goes on to say she'll take a measurement of the fetus that will tell when the baby was conceived, and then we'll know "who".
Sun says she'll lose either way, "If I'm going to live, that means the baby's not Jin's."
She still wants the answer.
Moment of truth.
{Flash}
Sun is in her bedroom. Jin home. He heard she came by the office today, he would have liked to see her. Jin asks for the mail; it's in her purse. She freaks because Jin finds the manila envelope of money. Sun tells him it's from her father for furniture and a nice honeymoon. Jin wants to be the provider for them. He feels it may take longer, but he can take care of her. He wants her to give it back, "I don't want to be in your father's debt any more than we already are."
She loves him madly. She puts the money back in her purse.
Sun is getting her ultrasound.
Heartbeat.
There is the baby.
Juliet-"Do you see this little flutter? That's the heart beating….You crashed here 90 days ago. The baby was conceived about 8 weeks ago, so 53 days."
Juliet tells her she conceived on the Island.
Sun cries; she is happy because it is Jin's. {For the most part, this machine has no measuring info on the screen, no dates, and no numbers}
Sun meets the older woman by the bridge. The older woman was starting to think Sun wouldn't come. Sun gives her the envelope, "Why didn't you tell me you were Jin's mother?”
The woman says she gave birth to him, that doesn't make her his mother.
Sun-"You know how powerful my family is. My husband believes you are dead. Don't force me to make that a reality."
Daylight.
Sun exit's the double doors of the underground medical station. She asks Juliet how long does she have. Juliet tells her most of the woman made it into the middle of their second trimester. Nobody made it to their 3rd. So that gives Sun two months. Sun is just happy the baby is Jin's and Juliet is happy she gave Sun good news.
Juliet- "It was my pleasure, Sun. I'm gonna go back inside and make sure that I didn't miss anything, I don't wanna take the chance that we didn't cover our tracks. Do you wanna wait out here?"
Sun will wait outside. She thanks Juliet. Sun looks up toward the sky.
Juliet heads back down into the secret lair. She uses a little tape recorder to record notes, "Ben. It's 6 am on Saturday morning. Kwon is pregnant. The fetus is healthy and was conceived on Island with her husband. He was sterile before they got here. I'm still working on getting samples from the other women. I should have Austen's soon. I'll report back when I know more."
She shuts off the tape and says "I hate you."
Daylight.
The guys are making a stretcher to carry the parachutist. Charlie continues on about not trusting the Others, the one Desmond let go will be back with 5 of his mates tomorrow, "We should've killed him."
Desmond-"You know brother, by my count, you've killed more of them than they've killed of you." {That is a FANTASTIC line!!!}
Charlie-"They started it. Just because one comes traipsing back with Jack and Kate doesn't mean we can trust them now."
Hurley is sitting away from them fiddling with the phone thingy. He actually dials the phone holds it to his ear, listens, waits, and says "Mom?" {HOLY SHIT!}
He is with the injured woman; She starts waking up and asks him where she is.
Hurley doesn't know, "You're on an island. Are you here to rescue us? Are there more of you? Can you make your phone work?"
The woman- "Who are you?"
He says he's Hugo Reyes, "I crashed here on Oceanic flight 815. A bunch of us survived. Is that why you're here? Were you looking for us?"
The woman- "815? Flight 815 the one from Sydney? No. That's not possible."
He agrees, it wasn't easy. They found food and the hatch and more food…
She-"No. Flight 815...They, they found the plane. There were no survivors. They were all dead."
Hurley-"What?"
D.O.C. is a GREAT EPISODE! To me Doc relates to Jack.
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* We get a view of the area behind Sun but we never see Jack walking there!!! Is this really Jack? Maybe it's Vincent or...
* Jack is known as Doc.
* Could 'Jack' know more about the 'Island' mothers and their babies?
* Learn. Education. Graduation.
* Red. White. Black.
* What's with Hurley? He 'accidentally' fired the flare gun, opens his big mouth to Mikhail about the phone, and tells the injured girl they found the hatch! All that and he doesn't pass out at the sight of blood, not once! Come on!! We know Hurley's a fainter!
* Why are they checking all the women for pregnancy? What is the real issue with pregnancy and the "Island"? Is there some funky way their getting pregnant? How will we ever know what the truthful issue is with reproduction there?!
* "Thank you for helping me." No! She said "I'm not alone" to Mikhail. The night this originally aired, I called my Portuguese friend and he translated this for me! Next question… Do these 2 multi-lingual people know each other?
* Languages. Spoken and understood.
* Portuguese is a language that is a combination of many languages.
* Sun bribes her father.
* Do manila envelopes contain bribes?
* Life: Fertility. Egg. Parentage. Conception. DNA. 'Flutter.' Surrogates. Carriers. Breeding. Is there some sort of replicating and/or combining of DNA going on? Are there frozen embryos or eggs or even sperm somewhere? Could that be where our Cold or Chill, clues come in? Why do “mothers” get deadly conditions that kill them? It's really driving me crazy that I can't pinpoint the "COLD" clue!! Aahhhhhh!!!!
* Creating. Nurturing.
* Why would they hide that room in the medical station? How many other "hidden rooms" are there?
* With things being able to be implanted into people there, how many other things are we seeing that can be due to these types of physical manipulations?
* Dead. Not Dead. Assuming people are dead. But they are not.
* Do Charlie and Mikhail share a past?
* Reference to Sayid being shot, in the left shoulder I might add! That'll come back around!
* Soup. Supe-as in the Superman-Flash conversation Hurley has with Charlie in Catch 22.
* This injured parachutist can heal from life threatening injuries. Don't forget that! Mikhail said so!
* What makes Hurley so special?!!
Vocabulary and Research...
* D.O.C. Date of conception.
- DOC. Short for Doctor.
- Department of Corrections.
- Drug of Choice- the appropriate medication prescribed in any given circumstance.
- D.O.C.- 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine or 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine or 4-Chloro-2,5-DMA or DOC is a psychedelic hallucinogenic drug of the phenethylamine family. Unlike simple amphetamines, DOC is a psychedelic that resembles LSD, DOB, and mescaline. These effects include open and closed eye visuals, increased awareness of sound and movement and euphoria.
- Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII is a third person shooter and RPG which is a sequel to the popular 1997 video game Final Fantasy VII.
D.O.C.. Hmmmmm.... Maybe a Doc-tor gives them their drug of choice, preferably some DOC, to convince a woman of her date of conception, while she's playing Dirge of Cerberus in Final Fantasy VII with her day old cockerel falcon on her shoulder? I hope that made you giggle?! No seriously… I can't wait for the reveal about offspring and the Island!
Love to all who are "LOST" ™
Posted at MySpace on February 2008
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
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