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August 1, 2009

Travel back with me/Do I need a passport?

It's fun to travel to the past (or future) and revisit things we witnessed in the story. While I am in the middle of bringing all my notes from my/the past over to this site I am entertained by some of the info we got outside the story; like this video clip from Comic Con 2008. It's interesting to see if it fits anywhere in season 5.
Keep in mind the following notes were originally posted on MySpace July, 2008.


Let's talk about LOST! Do I Need a Passport?

OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VISUAL OR AUDIO, SO DETAILS WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AFTER I SEE THE OFFICIAL RELEASED VIDEO. PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

At Comic Con 2008, we saw the release of two video clips. One for the Octagon Global Recruiters booth and the other, the infamous Dr. Candle/Halliwax/Wickman Dharma videos we've all come to know and love.
Let’s check out what we have so far….

Video from the LOST PANEL:
Dan Bronsen follows Hans Van Eeghen through the floor at Comic Con and arrives at the Dharma booth. Dan communicates to the concealed camera how he had to sign like 50 confidentiality sheets that he would't tell the contents. But he's going to reveal all, live…On tape! {HA! Love that!} Van Eeghen is going to show the new recruit's a classified video….

There is a "glitchy static" video transmission...
Dr. Marvin Candle.
Candle sits on an ugly sofa in front of book shelves. His clothes seem dated.
"Hello. My name is Dr. Marvin Candle and I....you know what? Forget it. No point in games anymore, right? If you're watching this now, you already know that my name is, my real name is Pierre Cheng, and I... (baby cries off camera to the right, Cheng gets up, yells angrily} "Damn it, Lara {name?} Just take him outside! Please! I've got one chance at this." He sits down …{static}… and I…professor of theoretical Astro-physics from Ann Arbor, Michigan. I was brought to this god forsaken island …years ago to conduct experiments…….{static}…. to study the Kerr metric solution of the Einstein field equations…. and... {static}…. If I can keep this *** {something else seems to be on the left of the shot for a moment, Cheng's right side} …. open long enough, you should be receiving my message roughly 30 years…. {static}… If you're... {static}…. The American president is a man named George W. Bush. And you share digital information, instantaneously on something called "Internet". And, unfortunately, my colleagues and I are all dead. And f… {static}… of a violent purge, one that we are apparently powerless to escape. {looks down at his left arm, moves fingers, and touches it with his right hand)….{static}…This…(in)formation comes to me from the source that has proven himself to be credible.
Camera man- "None of it matters. It doesn't matter. Just get to it. Please!…. {static}
Dr. Cheng- "regardless…… if this transmission is successful, it's proof the work I've been doing here is valid. This place, it has extraordinary properties. I'm begging you, no matter what's happened, it's imperative that the DHARMA Initiative be reconstituted. You have to continue to research…. {static}… and you have to do it now. Time is not just of the essence, it is the essence. Perhaps you'll be able to, find a way to save us, to change the past and to…. {static}…. You have to stop what's about to happen….. You can't let it.... "
Camera man- "This is useless! It's just….it's…use…. They're never gonna see this, Pierre. How do I turn this off?"
Dr. Cheng- "No, no. Wwwwhat are you doing?"
Camera man- "How do you turn it off?"
Dr. Cheng- "No. No. No…! What are you doing?"…. {static}

Dan Bronsen is caught filming by Van Eeghen, and runs off excited that he has the pirated tape!

OCTAGON GLOBAL RECRUITING-DHARMA VIDEO:
Approximately 41 seconds long.
Words/Graphics, w/images quickly blinking by: Dharma Initiative. Namaste. Wonder. Blood, Old Sinking Ship, X-rays of spinal column. Ingenuity.What would you sacrifice to stay alive? What makes you angry? Limb-like carrot. A Better Tomorrow. New Bagua Symbol. We do. Join us. Why does the black widow spider eat the male after mating? Recruiting today. Dharma Initiative. Guide the world to a better tomorrow. Who is your constant? Spine. Little Red Riding hood in bed with the wolf.

The images are the same ones we get tested on for the recruitment process. DHARMAWANTSYOU.com

THINGS TO NOTE…QUESTIONS TO ASK…
* Sounds like Daniel Faraday behind the camera. (What do you think?)
* Is Daniel Faraday Cheng's credible source?
* The cameraman doesn't know how to turn off the camera/recorder.
* The baby crying sounds like a cat. LOL
* Of course, ALL important details/information are absent from the Cheng video.
* We know Candle/Wickman/Haliwax/Cheng appeared in Dharma films/videos in 1980. The Barracks video was shown in the 60's/early70's. That's based on young Ben's age/arrival to the "Island."
* In the Swan orientation film Candle fans have said he has a prosthetic left arm. That copyrighted year was 1980. He does not appear to have prosthetic arm in this new tape.
* Which purge is Cheng talking about? The one from December 19, 1992? The one where Ben took the lives of over 40 people? Or the one Locke speaks of at the mass grave where at least 100 Dharma people are? Which one, damn it?
* Why would Cheng, a professional credible scientist need to constantly change his name for the Dharma Orientation films/videos? Why not just use your real name? Maybe he's not who he says he is at all. By Cheng revealing his "real name" he is admitting "lies and cons" from previous films/tapes. What would make this tape any different? I'm just asking!
* Cheng would know current events info if there really was "time traveling" involved. If there isn't time traveling and this is a con, we know Ben, Mikhail, Tom and Richard all have access to the "Outside world." {lol "outside world"} So they would know who the president is and all current events info.
* Was "time travel" one of the original fields of study for Dharma?
* Damon and Carlton have mentioned Desmond's conscious mind travels. Still the Dharma videos are trying to convince us of physical time travel. Make up your friggin minds already!! {I love Damon and Carlton, by the way!}
* If "time travel" is attainable in this story, why wouldn't the past have been changed already? We see evidence of them living events over more than once.  So, for example, why wasn't Kate's past, I.e. killing her father, changed, or any of the other crimes she committed changed? Why wasn't the past event of Anthony Cooper throwing Locke out of the window changed? How about Michael being able to keep Waaaaaalt? Oh! Oh! Oh! Because you can't change the past! What's done is done! Unless, we're playing by the rules of the terminator movies. Hehehehe.
* We saw Desmond try to change things...But he didn't.
* Couldn't the plane crash been avoided by changing the past? No, because that's all part of the plan. {Staged, Faked, etc.}
* Is the reason Juliet is in love with Jack because they "time travel" back and forth through the time/space continuum, and share a former romance and are destined to be together. Or is it because they are scientists or even natives who are really old and just happen to share a romantic past?
* Is the above reasons for Jack and Juliet the same for Sun and Michael? Sun and Jin? Or Kate and Jack? OR Kate and Sawyer? Or Claire and Charlie? Or Libby and Hurley? Or Desmond and Penny? Etc….
* With that many people involved in "said" time traveling, how can you keep all the things/events/facts you want kept the same, but change other things? You can't have it both ways especially with so many lives involved? Did that make sense? LOL!
* Rachel Blake and Dan both, separately, have video taped information.
* Are we about to see where QUARANTINE and VACCINES come in? How about the clues involving DNA, GNOMES, BLOOD, BREEDING, BLENDING, CREATING etc..
* Are either of these new videos a connection to the discoveries Rachel Blake made with Dr. Mittlewerk and that group of people?
* I find it very important to note the use of the "games" comment from Cheng and the visual of Little Red Riding Hood with the Big Bad Wolf in the Dharma testing video. Hmmm.....

VOCABULARY AND RESEARCH…
* Relative: Not absolute; connected to or depending on something else.
* Relative: Someone in the same family; someone connected by blood, marriage, or adoption.
- Or: refer to relativity for a scientific definition.
* Reconstituted: To constitute again or anew; especially: to restore to a former condition by adding water.

* Essence, (Electronic Surveillance System for the Early Notification of Community-based Epidemics) is a United States Department of Defense health-protection initiative.
* In philosophy, essence is the attribute or set of attributes that make an object or substance what it fundamentally is, and which it has by necessity, and without which it loses its identity. Essence is contrasted with accident: a property that the object or substance has contingently, without which the substance can still retain its identity.


The Dharma testing video shows us motivational words and sentences, plus quick snapshots of spine x-rays, blood, subliminally showing us medical experimenting/testing.

With all revealed at Comic Con 2008, could Cheng be telling the truth about prompting a newly reconstituted Dharma Initiative/recruits into "time traveling" to change events so some upcoming tragedy doesn't occur?   Or are the "Time Traveling" videos a cover for what's really going on?
Couldn't OGR/Dharma be trying to recruit more workers and test subjects/guinea pigs, for the sake of perfecting whatever it is they are working on medically such as a vaccine or a virus, a hybrid? Whatever? Are these two tapes connected or do these two things have nothing to do with each other?

Could we have ourselves a full blown epidemic about to break? I guess we should get inoculated! I hope the future…Uh, I mean the past, has great doctors and great medical insurance. I'll let you know when I get there…Uh…I mean back….Or here….Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

Love to all who are "LOST"™

Images from the Dharma Testing session.
(CLICK THE PICS!)



Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode; we all know what they are. Understood? Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance.

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