Hi LOST fans,
The ODI Lostcast is up!
Another week into season 5 has passed and we finally got some insight into what is happening or “happened”, or so we think...
Since we knew this week's episode Whatever Happened, Happened had several key scenes and opened the door for some good chatter, we asked DarkUFO recapper Vozzek69 to join us for the entire podcast this week.
While recapping the episode all three of us enjoy a lengthy discussion regarding several of the key points in the episode including what might really be happening, the “time travel” debate with Miles and Hurley, Richard taking Ben into the Temple and so much more.
Of course, as always we provide you with a little preview of this week's episode as well.
NOTE: The spoilers segment begins at the 109 minute mark.
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Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers, and I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
Showing posts with label Perception. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Perception. Show all posts
April 8, 2009
December 26, 2008
DSA Week 5. I'll ride in the Mystery Machine.
Hi Losties!
This weeks Damon and Carlton DSA holiday extravaganza was very entertaining. I waited for this weeks DSA email with just as much enthusiasm I have while waiting for the arrival of Santa.
Password to enter: yksnizdar = radzinsky
The boys were hawking the season four DVD'S.
They tell us that they took all the “Flash forwards” from that season and put them in linear fashion.
They also show us a “replay” of the “future” video clip of Damon and Carlton.
I consider this clip a “replay” because it was already shown at this years comic con.
Re-introducing a "four years in the future version" of Damon and Carlton, we learn they are in hiding because LOST ended catastrophically.
They considered their watching of the season four DVD extras {That contained this “future” video clip} liberating. It enabled them to completely change their game plan. They realized the mistakes that they made in ending the show badly. With that “future” information, they have completely changed their course.
A New Game Plan.
Damon- “Those guys are never going to exist.”
Then the “Flash sound” and we see their “Flash”…
Seemingly somewhere underground, in hiding. {Looks kind of like the connecting hallways of the Hatches.}
Damon wearing a New York Yankees world champions 2010 and an eye patch.
Carlton with a mustache, apparently supports Obama for four more years.
They bicker about things not turning out so well.
I was cracking up over these two bickering about how things turned out.
Talking about Paradox, “...as if we can change any of this.”
A paradox problem.
Carlton believes if Damon could just look at the tape they can just write a new season 5 and 6; The show will end well.
Damon would love to look at the tape but he has no “depth perception.”
The boys continue on with cute censored reveals of character and storyline and convincing that each others story ideas led to the canceling the show before the end of the series.
They made mistakes.
They wind up that clip with sharing their distaste for each other, and strangling each other...
Then in a Flash we are brought back to them today, shaking hands and warmly sharing that they will always be friends.
Damon-“Here’s to changing the future”
Carlton says the show is going to speed to an incredible fantastic ending. {Hello, I don’t want it to ever end!}
Namaste.
Note that their "future" tape has glitches.
Two New characters are shown in a quick flash snapshot.
Ceaser and Ilana.
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* Backwards.
* Will we see the written game plans or rules changed again?
* Re-write the script
* Game.
* New York.
* Underground.
* Depth and Perception.
* Con.
* Believe.
* Paradox
* Or are we just dealing with a pair of docks? Lol!!
* Hiding. The Dharma benefactors went into hiding. Dalton goes into hiding. The island residents are always trying to hide. Don’t they all realize “Hiding is pointless” ?!
* Is something going on with dimensions? Or something with people having different perceptions of things/time/distance/issues/experiences, etc.?
* Are we still dealing with “optical illusions” to some degree?
* As much as things change...will they stay the same? The "universe" has a way of course correcting.
* Is there a glitch in the matrix?
* Should I keep my research and clues about Crete, Ancient scripts (Linear A, Linear B)?
Vocabulary and Research...
* Paradox- A self contradictory statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa. An unanswerable question.
Paradox can be found in Temporal Paradox for time travel issues. Puzzles, Logic, Math, Statistics, Probability, Geometry, Chemical, Physical, Philosophical, Economics, Morals and so much more.
* Depth-is the visual ability to perceive the world in 3 dimensions.
- To make sense of distance.
* Depth perception arises from a variety of depth cues. These are typically classified into binocular cues that require input from both eyes and monocularcues that require the input from just one eye. Binocular cues include stereopsis, yielding depth from binocular vision through exploitation of parallax. Monocular cues include size: distant objects subtend smaller visual angles than near objects. A third class of cues requires synthetic integration of binocular and monocular cues.
* Backwards- is the fourth Red Dwarf novel by Rob Grant.It is set on the fictional backwards universe version of Earth.
I truly adore these guys. These two men along with all the writers and producers of the show are truly AMAZING! I for one can NOT live in a world with no LOST in it.
I would LOVE to imagine there is a bigger clue lurking about. Sure, I’ve been made fun of for my "over thinking" clues and such, but if I could wish for one clue in this bit of fun info delivered from Darlton, and I could manipulate it in to a clue I WANT, it would be that the LOST series would run for four more years.
In all seriousness, again, we are dealing with perception. And remember, everyone’s perception is different.
Maybe when all is said and done the big reveal will end up being one hell of a Scooby Doo ending.
Just like that great cartoon, maybe some of the unusual forces will turn out to have very rational explanations. I always loved how the criminals in that show wore costumes, masks, and used special effects to scare the shit out of the kids.
You can read my blog about LOST and perception here-(click here)...
Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Passwords: LaFleur. Qilak. Adella Courey. Kapalaran. yksnizdar.
Love to all who are “LOST”™
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! Things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either. I hate spoilers! I stand clear of reading certain sites, as to not take me off my own research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Good! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues in bold.
This weeks Damon and Carlton DSA holiday extravaganza was very entertaining. I waited for this weeks DSA email with just as much enthusiasm I have while waiting for the arrival of Santa.
Password to enter: yksnizdar = radzinsky
The boys were hawking the season four DVD'S.
They tell us that they took all the “Flash forwards” from that season and put them in linear fashion.
They also show us a “replay” of the “future” video clip of Damon and Carlton.
I consider this clip a “replay” because it was already shown at this years comic con.
Re-introducing a "four years in the future version" of Damon and Carlton, we learn they are in hiding because LOST ended catastrophically.
They considered their watching of the season four DVD extras {That contained this “future” video clip} liberating. It enabled them to completely change their game plan. They realized the mistakes that they made in ending the show badly. With that “future” information, they have completely changed their course.
A New Game Plan.
Damon- “Those guys are never going to exist.”
Then the “Flash sound” and we see their “Flash”…
Seemingly somewhere underground, in hiding. {Looks kind of like the connecting hallways of the Hatches.}
Damon wearing a New York Yankees world champions 2010 and an eye patch.
Carlton with a mustache, apparently supports Obama for four more years.
They bicker about things not turning out so well.
I was cracking up over these two bickering about how things turned out.
Talking about Paradox, “...as if we can change any of this.”
A paradox problem.
Carlton believes if Damon could just look at the tape they can just write a new season 5 and 6; The show will end well.
Damon would love to look at the tape but he has no “depth perception.”
The boys continue on with cute censored reveals of character and storyline and convincing that each others story ideas led to the canceling the show before the end of the series.
They made mistakes.
They wind up that clip with sharing their distaste for each other, and strangling each other...
Then in a Flash we are brought back to them today, shaking hands and warmly sharing that they will always be friends.
Damon-“Here’s to changing the future”
Carlton says the show is going to speed to an incredible fantastic ending. {Hello, I don’t want it to ever end!}
Namaste.
Note that their "future" tape has glitches.
Two New characters are shown in a quick flash snapshot.
Ceaser and Ilana.
Things to note…Questions to ask...
* Backwards.
* Will we see the written game plans or rules changed again?
* Re-write the script
* Game.
* New York.
* Underground.
* Depth and Perception.
* Con.
* Believe.
* Paradox
* Or are we just dealing with a pair of docks? Lol!!
* Hiding. The Dharma benefactors went into hiding. Dalton goes into hiding. The island residents are always trying to hide. Don’t they all realize “Hiding is pointless” ?!
* Is something going on with dimensions? Or something with people having different perceptions of things/time/distance/issues/experiences, etc.?
* Are we still dealing with “optical illusions” to some degree?
* As much as things change...will they stay the same? The "universe" has a way of course correcting.
* Is there a glitch in the matrix?
* Should I keep my research and clues about Crete, Ancient scripts (Linear A, Linear B)?
Vocabulary and Research...
* Paradox- A self contradictory statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa. An unanswerable question.
Paradox can be found in Temporal Paradox for time travel issues. Puzzles, Logic, Math, Statistics, Probability, Geometry, Chemical, Physical, Philosophical, Economics, Morals and so much more.
* Depth-is the visual ability to perceive the world in 3 dimensions.
- To make sense of distance.
* Depth perception arises from a variety of depth cues. These are typically classified into binocular cues that require input from both eyes and monocularcues that require the input from just one eye. Binocular cues include stereopsis, yielding depth from binocular vision through exploitation of parallax. Monocular cues include size: distant objects subtend smaller visual angles than near objects. A third class of cues requires synthetic integration of binocular and monocular cues.
* Backwards- is the fourth Red Dwarf novel by Rob Grant.It is set on the fictional backwards universe version of Earth.
I truly adore these guys. These two men along with all the writers and producers of the show are truly AMAZING! I for one can NOT live in a world with no LOST in it.
I would LOVE to imagine there is a bigger clue lurking about. Sure, I’ve been made fun of for my "over thinking" clues and such, but if I could wish for one clue in this bit of fun info delivered from Darlton, and I could manipulate it in to a clue I WANT, it would be that the LOST series would run for four more years.
In all seriousness, again, we are dealing with perception. And remember, everyone’s perception is different.
Maybe when all is said and done the big reveal will end up being one hell of a Scooby Doo ending.
Just like that great cartoon, maybe some of the unusual forces will turn out to have very rational explanations. I always loved how the criminals in that show wore costumes, masks, and used special effects to scare the shit out of the kids.
You can read my blog about LOST and perception here-(click here)...
Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Passwords: LaFleur. Qilak. Adella Courey. Kapalaran. yksnizdar.
Love to all who are “LOST”™
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! Things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either. I hate spoilers! I stand clear of reading certain sites, as to not take me off my own research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Good! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues in bold.
November 3, 2008
BLURRED REALITY.
Let's talk about LOST!
"This isn't really happening!"- Desmond Hume. The Constant
I have been asked many times while writing my notes in these blogs if I have any idea what is going on, and why don't I outright tell you what my theories are.
By now you know I try to keep my opinion on what's going on low key.
This way I can keep the clue line neutral, presenting to you as many clue options as possible.
Sometimes it is hard for me to keep my thoughts to myself or my big mouth shut. lol.
You know the show became my place of escape and in that, absorbing things that enable me to have fun piecing together this living breathing puzzle game.
We all see different things in the episodes and even have a different take on the show. That's what makes all of this so special. We all contribute to this puzzle as a means to get to the big picture. I value all of your insight!
Being careful never to take one side of an issue or clue; and presenting the many choices of what an answer could be, is the way to see which clues pan out. This way you can make your own discoveries and minds up about things.
I know my vocabulary and research can be a bit over the top, but including those things show you the answer may not be the first answer it was assumed to be.
This show is all about the subliminal. Things right there in plain sight and if you blink, you'll miss it. I LOVE that!
To answer your question... Yes, I have a theory that I'm leaning toward. It is based only on the clues noted in my notes and not outside influences or other theories. Anything I write is still only my opinion on what I see. I do kind of share my thoughts subliminally through the questions I ask you.
We're only halfway through this epic story and there is so much more to learn. To think we have all the "correct answers" right now is just wrong.
I'll never tell you what to think. I only hope that I've been able to bring a little something different to the LOST theory table.
Even though we have "information" making us look to "certain things" i.e. this crazy time travel thingy, plane crash and the Oceanic 6, etc., we still can't discount illusion, manipulation, tricks and Razzle Freakin Dazzle because they are at play here!
What is real and what is NOT?
How many times have I said this... "Flashes, people and "things" are not what they seem."
I think were being led to believe something. {Just like the people on the "Island"} But is it the truth?
If you get the chance head back into my past posts regarding the Missing Pieces Mobisodes in particular. I think you'll find those very interesting since we've seen the first 8 episodes of this season.
There are a lot of wonderful theories out there! I'd love to hear yours.
Share with me what you think is happening with the "Island's snow globe", its surreal surroundings and players. What do you hope to learn when the season returns?
Is what we're seeing really what you think it is?
Remember...It's all about PERCEPTION!
You all make this so much fun for me.
Thank you. I truly appreciate all of you.
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted on MySpace April 12, 2008
"This isn't really happening!"- Desmond Hume. The Constant
I have been asked many times while writing my notes in these blogs if I have any idea what is going on, and why don't I outright tell you what my theories are.
By now you know I try to keep my opinion on what's going on low key.
This way I can keep the clue line neutral, presenting to you as many clue options as possible.
Sometimes it is hard for me to keep my thoughts to myself or my big mouth shut. lol.
You know the show became my place of escape and in that, absorbing things that enable me to have fun piecing together this living breathing puzzle game.
We all see different things in the episodes and even have a different take on the show. That's what makes all of this so special. We all contribute to this puzzle as a means to get to the big picture. I value all of your insight!
Being careful never to take one side of an issue or clue; and presenting the many choices of what an answer could be, is the way to see which clues pan out. This way you can make your own discoveries and minds up about things.
I know my vocabulary and research can be a bit over the top, but including those things show you the answer may not be the first answer it was assumed to be.
This show is all about the subliminal. Things right there in plain sight and if you blink, you'll miss it. I LOVE that!
To answer your question... Yes, I have a theory that I'm leaning toward. It is based only on the clues noted in my notes and not outside influences or other theories. Anything I write is still only my opinion on what I see. I do kind of share my thoughts subliminally through the questions I ask you.
We're only halfway through this epic story and there is so much more to learn. To think we have all the "correct answers" right now is just wrong.
I'll never tell you what to think. I only hope that I've been able to bring a little something different to the LOST theory table.
Even though we have "information" making us look to "certain things" i.e. this crazy time travel thingy, plane crash and the Oceanic 6, etc., we still can't discount illusion, manipulation, tricks and Razzle Freakin Dazzle because they are at play here!
What is real and what is NOT?
How many times have I said this... "Flashes, people and "things" are not what they seem."
I think were being led to believe something. {Just like the people on the "Island"} But is it the truth?
If you get the chance head back into my past posts regarding the Missing Pieces Mobisodes in particular. I think you'll find those very interesting since we've seen the first 8 episodes of this season.
There are a lot of wonderful theories out there! I'd love to hear yours.
Share with me what you think is happening with the "Island's snow globe", its surreal surroundings and players. What do you hope to learn when the season returns?
Is what we're seeing really what you think it is?
Remember...It's all about PERCEPTION!
You all make this so much fun for me.
Thank you. I truly appreciate all of you.
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted on MySpace April 12, 2008
July 14, 2008
Objects in Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear.
Let's talk about LOST! Objects in Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear.
You've been clamoring for more LOST discussion. So here we go...
PERCEPTION: What do you see? Do you see what I see? Do I see what you see? Is what you are perceiving really what is being presented? Is it the truth or all part of a wonderful magic trick, where slide of hand and hypnotic convincing words are conning you into believing what you are seeing?
Since the show began we have been led to believe that these people are survivors of a plane crash. Random coincidence brought these people together. Bizarre extremes in their lives are revisited on the island. Redemption seemed to be the name of the game. We then live the trials and tribulations of these survivors trying to "survive" the island and the Others who already live there. We learned a privately funded organization used the island and its special properties to study people and their environment; a laboratory. The goal was to make people and the world better. Social behavior, education, religion and politics are part of the plan. Let's not forget the medical and psychological aspects this organization wanted to study and perfect. While on the island it became apparent to these people there is an issue with pregnant woman and fertility clashing with this "Island." We met a handsome man who seems to never get any older, although it appears he has lived a very long time. We question how people travel to and from that "Island." And then there's the implication of time travel. All of that in short seems to be the story as we are shown it. Do you agree?
When time is taken to dissect the show we find things are not what they seem. We began to see that many of the people who are on the "island" do indeed share common interests and mutual friends. Their paths have crossed before. And all roads seem to have led them all together, here, to this "Island."
If you are a regular reader of my episode clues notes, you've seen how the subliminal clues come into play. When we dig deeper into a clue we find that what we thought on the surface was the truth, could be something very different under the smoke screen. This particular blog post is here to explore additional information and reminders of events of episodes past. After four seasons, and the seemingly endless notes I've posted here, what if there's still too much assuming going on? What if the viewer is getting just enough surface information to base assumptions on? Has that been enough to let you see the truth? This is why I am always compelled to dig deeper. That's why each of my episode clues notes is written as they are. With all that digging I think I've been able to show and hint to other possibilities and ways to look at some things.
I'd like to use the long hiatus to really get into some of the clue words, connections to people, places, things, and other revelations, to see if they are fitting into the puzzle or are they clues I can file away. Of course, due to the many layers of the story, we can only tackle a few things at a time. Let's tackle just a few of them today.
Important layers and clue words I hope to address before season 5 returns are all that show up in my notes. Including, but not limited to: Plate tectonics, North, Cold, Ice, Freeze, Below, Under, Underwater, Sub, Underground, Hidden, Klick, Egg, Flash, Fly, Change, Chess, Tracking, Monitor, Looping, Australia, New York, Germany, Norway, England, Los Angeles, Tustin, Religions, Literature, Philosophy, Quarantine, Bug, Morph, Transform, Natives, Hostiles, Ancient culture, Comic books, Communication, Journey, Home and Vincent.
I've been saying to you for the longest time that things and people are not what they seem. Illusion, tricks and cons are hiding the truth. We've even seen Ben pull a rabbit out of a hat once or twice. So, taking the story as I stated in the first paragraph of this post and using the subliminal clues that are running ramped throughout the story let's refresh our memories on few things to see if things are turning out to be something different than what you originally thought or have been led to believe.
Now, that's not to say there aren't some terrific "out of this world" things going on with this "island", I'm sure there are.. But what I am saying is there could be examples of some things having a much simpler explanation.
I am not here to replay the same ol' things, but some things are necessary to show how things tie together.
It's important to remember episode titles, clues, words and phrases seem to always have at least two meaning.
Let's start with a few of my mainstay thoughts. Yep, l still feel the "Flashes" are out of order or at least don't follow in a constant time line. This could include the segments of events we see on the "island." I can only imagine what the picture is going to reveal when the puzzle pieces are placed in order. How is the picture going to differ from where we started? I also feel they are never out of the confines of the "Island" or its surrounding areas; a bloody snow globe, going from one island to another island. Would that mean the "Island" isn't really an "Island"? I've touched on that in past notes too.
Casket/coffin: In the S4 finale, we see Jack will need to transport a casket back to the "Island." This casket would contain the remains of Jeremy Bentham/John. Will this casket turn up empty upon arrival there, just as the casket in S1 was empty? Don't you find that curious; coincidence or replay? In S1 the casket was to contain Jack's father. Let's not forget that the empty casket Jack finds in the cave was already inside the cave. How could the casket, those plane parts, suitcases, dolls, etc., already be inside the cave when this crash was supposed to have just happened? I imagine the simple answer would be the "crash" didn't just happen. Many think those items could be already inside because of the popular "time loop theory." It very well could be. But, what if the items inside the cave are there as props for another run through of tests/exercise/challenges of the game and not by people who were there before them. What if the people who were there before them were "Them"?
Maybe that stuff was left by their "parents".
What if the items are just "triggers"? Besides, wouldn't Danielle have heard this huge "crash"? This statement being said leads me to reiterate that I still believe that Jack, along with all the survivors was placed in and around the "crash" site. Placed like pieces on a game board, all waking up at the same time.
GAMES- Backgammon and Chess- This story seems to contain a living breathing Chess game, a military game. Many examples of this are all over this story, starting with Chess terms.
Here are some of those terms we've heard or witnessed in some form since the beginning: Active, Adjournment, Adjudication, Algebraic notation, Amateur, Analysis, Arbiter, Attack, B, Battery, Bind, Black, Blunder, Board, Break, Breakthrough, Brilliancy, Bullet chess, Bye, Calculate, Capture, Castling, Casual game, Center, Check, Checkmate, Chessboard, Classical, Closed file, Coffeehouse, Color, Combination, Compensation, Control of the center, Cook, Counterattack, Cover, Cramped, Critical position, Decoy, Defense, Deflect, Develop, Diagonal, Draw, Drawing line, Equalize, Exchange, Family fork, First-move advantage, File, Fish, Flag, Flank, FM, Focal point, Forced move, Fork, Fortress, Friendly game, Grandmaster, Handicap, Hanging, Hanging pawns, Hole, Initiative, Interference, Kick, Line, Loss, Main line, Match, Mate, Material, Move, Odds, Opposition, Pairing, Pawn, Piece, Pin, Plan, Post-mortem, Promotion, Push, Queen, Rank, Resign, Sacrifice, Score, Second, See-saw, Sharp, Simplification, Skewer, Solid, Sound, Space, Squeeze, Sudden death, Swindle, Table base, Tactics, Take back, Tempo, Text move, Threat, Time, Time control, Time delay, Toilet move, Tournament, Trap, Trébuchet, Triangulation, Undermining, Valve, Variant, Variation, White, Win, Wing, X-ray attack.
Let's have some fun!!! Could we assign the people on the island Chess piece counterparts? I wonder if it would work. Hehehe!!!
Kate's real role here is more than what we perceive it to be, I'm sure. Is she on the run from something or to/for something? From the very beginning the Marshal tells Jack not to trust a word Kate says. By the way, Danielle said a similar thing to Sayid about Henry Gale.
Kate said she was awake for the entire event of the plane going down, she befriends Jack and she knows her way around the island. Kate's involved in almost every trek as if she's there to keep her 'eye' on things. She delivers Aaron in the jungle, tells Claire this baby is "All of us/ours." Kate is also responsible for Aaron off the island. Which brings me to this question...(S4 finale) Who does Claire dare Kate not to bring back? We can assume she's speaking about Aaron, but could it mean someone else? Plus I can't ignore the hug between Kate and Penny in the S4 finale. It leads me to think these two possibly know each other. Is Kate a mole, hired hand or babysitter?
"Santa Rosa's" role: Yes it has a role and is serving a purpose here, but how? Research or programming/deprogramming subjects/patients? Is it being used to "teach" subjects into "learning" something? Monitoring case studies, perhaps? I feel "Santa Rosa" is a HUGE part of the story. Could they all be patients at "Santa Rosa"? What if they were? What if they are?! It sure would explain a hell of a lot. Things would actually make sense. While I'm on that, could this be where the whispers come in?
Coffee/Tea, stimulants, drugs, alcohol, Clonazapam (other drugs), injections, implants, visions, hypnosis/triggers, lucid dreaming and states of consciousness:
All of these are forms of being able to manipulate a person's thoughts, perception and memory. We learn in a Missing Pieces episode that Ethan conveniently brings Jack a mega suitcase filled with medicine and drugs, supposedly belonging to the hypochondriac "Sullivan." I fucking call Shenanigans! It seems to me they need to be kept drugged up or in a certain "state."
Pregnancy, fertility, conceiving, parentage, blood disorders, DNA, Gnome, metabolism, blood: Who is really related to whom? Who are biological parents to which offspring? Is there a blending of two halves, creating one? Is someone trying to create the perfect person or even a perfect solider? Are they breeding a damn Super Hero race complete with ones who can fly?! Maybe their own Justice League while we're at it! Perhaps will we find a bunch of mutant alien bug beings roaming around. Through all this I still wonder why Ben claimed Alex as is daughter. But was she biologically tied to him, or even human? If there is "creating" a hybrid of some sort, to me it doesn't matter how, what matters is, why?
I don't think it is all about a physical transformation; it seems that it also encompasses emotional, mental and even spiritual transformation.
Reminder: We're told pregnant women die on the island. Let's not forget that in "All the best cowboys have daddy issues" a pregnant woman dies on the O.R. table at the hands of Jack and Christian. But this bit of info may come in handy when trying to show examples of them never really leaving the "island"; more on that next time.
Special: Locke, Walt, and Hurley. Who else? What makes them special or different? Let's not forget Shannon was special too.
Tests, Experiments, Exercises and Challenges: Since early on in S1, I have felt they've done all this before, lived on the "Island" running through things. When they first heard the monster sound they were concerned but never freaked out. As a matter of fact, when Walt hears that sound for the first time he asks Michael if that's Vincent. They found their way around the "Island" pretty comfortably. All their needs were always met, food, drink, meds, suntan lotion, pregnancy tests, reading material, etc.. I gave more insight to this back when we saw the episode The Other 48 Days. For me, the answer was right there in the title. There was, (at least) another set of 48 days, confirming they have done all this before. But how many times? 10? In that same episode Sawyer recalls in his haze, leaving Michael behind.
Being there before; returning. Did they ever leave? Since early on in S1 I felt Michael was one who may be remembering his tie to the "Island" and its people. Maybe that's why he was so determined to leave. The rest of them don't remember their tie to the "Island."
Remember this dialogue in the Missing Pieces episode Tropical Depression:
MICHAEL to Arzt- "It's Ok. The raft is finished. We're getting out of here. We're going to bring back help."
ARZT- "You are! I know you are! I know you are! And I am going to be the first one on the beach waving 'hello' when you get there."
TIME: There are inconsistencies with "time" issues. Do you think there's "Time Travel"? Where is it?! Did Desmond really time travel? I think it's possible he could be having "Flashes" of blended/blurred images of real and manipulated memory in "Flashes". These could connect to altered states of consciousness. If that is the possibility then Desmond experienced that not only in Flashes before Your Eyes, but also in The Constant.
Again, an altered conscious mind can happen via: Lucid Dreams, False awakening, Dream within a Dream, Flash within a Flash, Déjà vu, Memory and a bit of withdrawal from a hallucinogenic drug, drugs, alcohol, psychedelic drugs, brain washing, machines/computers, hypnosis, and even meditation.
Is Desmond a Pilot or Co Pilot in any of this, anyway?
I know you're going to say..."But Karen, Ben asked/mentions the year to the hotel desk clerk" and it seemed more like he, in his Ben way, cutely confirmed the year, not questioned it. Time Travel or Not to Time Travel, that is the question.
Some questions and things to note:
*Triggers: Would include things like, plane parts, caskets, dolls, the drug plane, Virgin Mary statues, rings, watches, books, (running) water, people, places, words, songs, x-rays, Vincent and a bunch of other fun items. Hypnotic suggestion seemed to be what was going on in One of Us, when Juliet heads out to the jungle to retrieve the medical kit and Sayid and Sawyer follow her. She speaks to them as if she "telling them" what to think and they appear hypnotized to me.
*Did Claire give Aaron away or did Christian? Claire looked loopy like she did when Ethan took her to the medical station.
* How old are the survivors? I'm sure Richard isn't the only one who hasn't aged. Is he really "native"? Could he be a regular person/scientist benefiting from the properties of the "island" or the studies of life extension by other scientists or something else? Besides, he better share some of whatever he's taking with me.
* THREE: The number of baby cribs in Cabin Fever. Two blue blankets and One pink. So is that where Boone, Charlie and Libby come up? Jack mentions them in the press conference. Why does he pick those three names?
* Are cryogenics involved? I'm just asking!!
Important facts:
* WAKE UP! They're always being told to Wake up!
* Yes, THEY ARE BEING WATCHED!!
* What is real and what is not?
* Eye color changes.
* Penny's boat the "SEARCHER" has no port city on it.
* Sayid spent time in France yet couldn't understand Danielle's 16 year loop recording in French. Why?
* Desmond and Juliet on the island 3 years. Coincidence? HA!
* According to the Blast Door Map, The Medical Station was abandoned in 1985. So how is Claire in the medical station with Ethan?
According to Hanso, D.I. was canceled in 1987 (funding cut).
Shut down 10.28.84. The Purge- 12.19.1992
Other Blast Door Map dates/numbers: 04.08.00, 08.15.01, 01.06.03
Kelvin and Desmond in the hatch 9.22.04
These dates show that the tests/studies never really ended.
The following is important info that I investigated while researching episode notes and previous posts.
Vocabulary...and Research...and Tid Bits...
* Agartha: is a legendary city that is said to reside in the Earth's core. It is related to the Hollow Earth theory and is a popular subject in Esotericism.
* Lost Horizon: is a 1933 novel by English writer James Hilton. It is best remembered as the origin of Shangri-La, a fictional Utopian lamasery high in the mountains of Tibet. People live a very long time, speak and understand many languages. Familiar names from the story are Rutherford, Rock and Chang.
* Imaginary friends: are pretend characters often created by children. Imaginary friends perform a tutelary function when they are engaged by the child in play activity. Imaginary friends may exist for the child into adolescence and sometimes adulthood. Imaginary friends often have elaborate personalities and behaviors. Although they may seem very real to their creators, studies have shown that children understand that their imaginary friends are not real.
* Simulated reality: is the proposition that reality could be simulated perhaps by
computer simulation to a degree indistinguishable from "true reality. In its strongest form, the "simulation hypothesis" claims it is probable that we are actually living in such a simulation. This is different from the current, technologically achievable concept of virtual reality.
* Virtual reality: is easily distinguished from the experience of "true" reality; participants are never in doubt about the nature of what they experience. Simulated reality, by contrast, would be hard or impossible to distinguish from "true" reality.
* Psychology and parapsychology, an apparition is an anomalous, quasi-perceptual experience. The term "ghost" implies that some element of the human being survives death and, at least under certain circumstances, can make itself perceptible to living human beings.
* Laboratory: (lab)-A facility that provides controlled conditions in which scientific research, experiments and measurement may be performed. Scientific labs can be found in schools, universities, industry, government or military facilities, and even aboard ships and spacecraft.
* "Mind's eye:" refers to the human ability for visual perception, imagination, visualization, and memory or, in other words, one's ability to "see" things with the mind.
* "Third eye": is a metaphysical and esoteric concept referring in part to the ajna (brow) chakra in certain Eastern and Western spiritual traditions. It is also spoken of as the gate that leads within to inner realms and spaces of higher consciousness.
* The map is not the territory: is a remark by Alfred Korzybski, Korzybski's dictum ("The map is not the territory") is also cited as an underlying principle used in neuro-linguistic programming, where it is used to signify that individual people in fact do not in general have access to absolute knowledge of reality, but in fact only have access to a set of beliefs they have built up over time, about reality. So it is considered important to be aware that people's beliefs about reality and their awareness of things (the "map") are not reality itself or everything they could be aware of ("the territory").
* Neuro-linguistic programming: (usually shortened to NLP) is an interpersonal communication model and an alternative approach to psychotherapy.
* Imagination as a reality: The world as experienced is an interpretation of data arriving from the senses, as such it is perceived as real by contrast to most thoughts and imaginings. This difference is only one of degree and can be altered by several historic causes, namely changes to brain chemistry, hypnosis, altered states of consciousness, meditation, many hallucinogenic drugs, and electricity applied directly to specific parts of the brain. The difference between imagined and perceived real can be so imperceptible as to cause acute states of psychosis. Many mental illnesses can be attributed to this inability to distinguish between the sensed and the internally created worlds. Some cultures and traditions even view the apparently shared world as an illusion of the mind as with the Buddhist, Maya or go to the opposite extreme and accept the imagined and dreamed realms as of equal validity to the apparently shared world as the Australian Aborigines do with their concept of dream time.
* The Minka Bird is a creature featured in Aboriginal dream time stories. According to the Aboriginals, the sighting of the Minka Bird foretells certain death.
* Astral projection: (or astral travel) is an esoteric interpretation of an out-of-body experience achieved either awake or via lucid dreaming or deep meditation.
* Teleportation: is the movement of objects from one place to another, more or less instantaneously, without traveling through space. The concept has been widely used in science fiction. It should not be confused with quantum teleportation.
* Parapsychology: (Greek "alongside" + psychology) -study of ostensibly paranormal events including ESP, psycho kinesis, and survival of consciousness after death. Parapsychologists call these processes psi, a term intended to be descriptive without implying a mechanism. Parapsychology is a fringe science because it involves research that does not fit within standard theoretical models accepted by mainstream science. Para psychological research involves laboratory research and fieldwork, which is conducted at privately funded laboratories and some universities around the world. Experiments conducted by para psychologists have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of psycho kinesis, sensory-deprivation.
* Ganzfeld experiments: to test for ESP, and research trials conducted under contract to the United States government to investigate the possibility of remote viewing.
* Zener cards: cards used to conduct experiments for ESP, most often clairvoyance. Perceptual psychologist Karl Zener designed the cards in the early 1930s. There are just 5 different Zener cards: a hollow circle (one curve), a Greek cross (two lines), three vertical wavy lines (or "waves"), a hollow square (four lines), and a hollow five-pointed star. There are 25 cards in a pack, 5 of each design.
* The 8-Circuit Model of Consciousness: is a theory of consciousness first proposed by psychologist Timothy Leary. It models the mind as a collection of 8 "circuits", with each circuit representing a higher stage of evolution than the one before it.
* The Fly: was a brig of 100 tons that sailed from Calcutta India on 14 May 1802 bound for Sydney, Australia. It was carrying a cargo of 4000 gallons of spirits and was commanded by John Black. It was never heard of again.
* Folie à deux: (literally, "a madness shared by two") is a rare psychiatric syndrome in which a symptom of psychosis (particularly a paranoid or delusional belief) is transmitted from one individual to another. The same syndrome shared by more than 2 people may be called folie à trois, folie à quatre, folie à famille , folie à plusieurs (madness of many)
* Bernard Trevisan: (Bernard of Treviso, Bernardus Trevisanus) refers to one or more Italian alchemists. These are often confused, or more accurately the name may refer to a shadowy figure or figures.
* Mahâbhûta: is Pali for the "Great Elements." The 4 Great Elements (Pali: cattâro mahâbhûtâni) are earth, water, fire and air. Mahâbhûta is generally synonymous with catudhâtu, which is Pâli for the "4 Elements." In early Buddhism the 4 Elements are a basis for understanding and for liberating oneself from suffering.
* A form constant: is one of several geometric patterns which are recurring, observed during hallucinations and altered states of consciousness.
* The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in 1785. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell whether they are being watched, thereby conveying what one architect has called the "sentiment of an invisible omniscience." Bentham has said this is obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example.
* Dharma: Teachings of Buddha. The Start of the 8 fold path.
* Bardo: a Tibetan word means "Intermediate State" also translated as "transitional state" or "in-between state.
Together "six Bardos" form a classification of states of consciousness into six broad types: The Bardo of This Life, Bardo of Meditation, Bardo of Dream, Bardo of Dying, Bardo of Dharmata, and the Bardo of Existence.
Any state of consciousness can form a type of "intermediate state", intermediate between other states of consciousness. One can consider any momentary state of consciousness a Bardo, since it lies between our past and future existences; it provides us with the opportunity to experience reality, which is always present but obscured by the projections and confusions that are due to our previous unskillful actions.
The Liberation Through Hearing During The Intermediate State or Bardo Thodol is a funerary text.
The Liberation Through Hearing During the Intermediate State also mentions three other Bardos: those of "life" (or ordinary waking consciousness), of "Dhyana" (meditation), and of "dream" (the dream state during normal sleep).
Let's have some fun. You may think the picture posted above is here for a test on optical illusion, and yes it can be used in that way. But I want to use it to show perception. We obtain information about the world around us through our sensory system. Our perception is shaped by sensory input combined with experience. But perception can be tricked.
The image in the picture is permanently fixed so we can't change the lines and shapes. But our minds will organize the lines and shapes into a picture with meaning "to us". It will be different for some as opposed to others.
It is fact that perception can change as emotions change. Perception alters what we people see into a "partial version" of reality, which ultimately corrupts the way people perceive the truth. When people view something with a preconceived idea about it they tend to take those preconceived ideas and see them whether or not they are there. This is because humans are unable to understand new information without the inherent bias of their previous knowledge. The extent of our own knowledge/experience creates our reality as much as the truth, because the human mind can only contemplate that which it has been exposed to. The Buddhists believe "Piercing the veil of illusion." This means that our minds are shaping sensory data and we have a choice as to how we shape it.
Go back and check out my other episode clues notes for lots of details and researched items.
With the few things I mention here, along with the discussion of perception and illusion, can that be a bit of what the "islanders" are experiencing? Combine that with all the other things noted, I.E. altered state of consciousness, medication, hypnosis, lucid dreaming. PLUS illusion, tricks, magic and razzle dazzle. Could this part of the story be telling us this is due to them being challenged/tested or taught with psychology and/or parapsychology all for the purpose of finding what you've lost?
It is possible that in all that confusion..."Up is down!"
Love to all who are "LOST" ™
Disclaimer:I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! Things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either. I hate spoilers! I stand clear of reading certain sites, as to not take me off my own research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Good! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues in bold.
You've been clamoring for more LOST discussion. So here we go...
PERCEPTION: What do you see? Do you see what I see? Do I see what you see? Is what you are perceiving really what is being presented? Is it the truth or all part of a wonderful magic trick, where slide of hand and hypnotic convincing words are conning you into believing what you are seeing?
Since the show began we have been led to believe that these people are survivors of a plane crash. Random coincidence brought these people together. Bizarre extremes in their lives are revisited on the island. Redemption seemed to be the name of the game. We then live the trials and tribulations of these survivors trying to "survive" the island and the Others who already live there. We learned a privately funded organization used the island and its special properties to study people and their environment; a laboratory. The goal was to make people and the world better. Social behavior, education, religion and politics are part of the plan. Let's not forget the medical and psychological aspects this organization wanted to study and perfect. While on the island it became apparent to these people there is an issue with pregnant woman and fertility clashing with this "Island." We met a handsome man who seems to never get any older, although it appears he has lived a very long time. We question how people travel to and from that "Island." And then there's the implication of time travel. All of that in short seems to be the story as we are shown it. Do you agree?
When time is taken to dissect the show we find things are not what they seem. We began to see that many of the people who are on the "island" do indeed share common interests and mutual friends. Their paths have crossed before. And all roads seem to have led them all together, here, to this "Island."
If you are a regular reader of my episode clues notes, you've seen how the subliminal clues come into play. When we dig deeper into a clue we find that what we thought on the surface was the truth, could be something very different under the smoke screen. This particular blog post is here to explore additional information and reminders of events of episodes past. After four seasons, and the seemingly endless notes I've posted here, what if there's still too much assuming going on? What if the viewer is getting just enough surface information to base assumptions on? Has that been enough to let you see the truth? This is why I am always compelled to dig deeper. That's why each of my episode clues notes is written as they are. With all that digging I think I've been able to show and hint to other possibilities and ways to look at some things.
I'd like to use the long hiatus to really get into some of the clue words, connections to people, places, things, and other revelations, to see if they are fitting into the puzzle or are they clues I can file away. Of course, due to the many layers of the story, we can only tackle a few things at a time. Let's tackle just a few of them today.
Important layers and clue words I hope to address before season 5 returns are all that show up in my notes. Including, but not limited to: Plate tectonics, North, Cold, Ice, Freeze, Below, Under, Underwater, Sub, Underground, Hidden, Klick, Egg, Flash, Fly, Change, Chess, Tracking, Monitor, Looping, Australia, New York, Germany, Norway, England, Los Angeles, Tustin, Religions, Literature, Philosophy, Quarantine, Bug, Morph, Transform, Natives, Hostiles, Ancient culture, Comic books, Communication, Journey, Home and Vincent.
I've been saying to you for the longest time that things and people are not what they seem. Illusion, tricks and cons are hiding the truth. We've even seen Ben pull a rabbit out of a hat once or twice. So, taking the story as I stated in the first paragraph of this post and using the subliminal clues that are running ramped throughout the story let's refresh our memories on few things to see if things are turning out to be something different than what you originally thought or have been led to believe.
Now, that's not to say there aren't some terrific "out of this world" things going on with this "island", I'm sure there are.. But what I am saying is there could be examples of some things having a much simpler explanation.
I am not here to replay the same ol' things, but some things are necessary to show how things tie together.
It's important to remember episode titles, clues, words and phrases seem to always have at least two meaning.
Let's start with a few of my mainstay thoughts. Yep, l still feel the "Flashes" are out of order or at least don't follow in a constant time line. This could include the segments of events we see on the "island." I can only imagine what the picture is going to reveal when the puzzle pieces are placed in order. How is the picture going to differ from where we started? I also feel they are never out of the confines of the "Island" or its surrounding areas; a bloody snow globe, going from one island to another island. Would that mean the "Island" isn't really an "Island"? I've touched on that in past notes too.
Casket/coffin: In the S4 finale, we see Jack will need to transport a casket back to the "Island." This casket would contain the remains of Jeremy Bentham/John. Will this casket turn up empty upon arrival there, just as the casket in S1 was empty? Don't you find that curious; coincidence or replay? In S1 the casket was to contain Jack's father. Let's not forget that the empty casket Jack finds in the cave was already inside the cave. How could the casket, those plane parts, suitcases, dolls, etc., already be inside the cave when this crash was supposed to have just happened? I imagine the simple answer would be the "crash" didn't just happen. Many think those items could be already inside because of the popular "time loop theory." It very well could be. But, what if the items inside the cave are there as props for another run through of tests/exercise/challenges of the game and not by people who were there before them. What if the people who were there before them were "Them"?
Maybe that stuff was left by their "parents".
What if the items are just "triggers"? Besides, wouldn't Danielle have heard this huge "crash"? This statement being said leads me to reiterate that I still believe that Jack, along with all the survivors was placed in and around the "crash" site. Placed like pieces on a game board, all waking up at the same time.
GAMES- Backgammon and Chess- This story seems to contain a living breathing Chess game, a military game. Many examples of this are all over this story, starting with Chess terms.
Here are some of those terms we've heard or witnessed in some form since the beginning: Active, Adjournment, Adjudication, Algebraic notation, Amateur, Analysis, Arbiter, Attack, B, Battery, Bind, Black, Blunder, Board, Break, Breakthrough, Brilliancy, Bullet chess, Bye, Calculate, Capture, Castling, Casual game, Center, Check, Checkmate, Chessboard, Classical, Closed file, Coffeehouse, Color, Combination, Compensation, Control of the center, Cook, Counterattack, Cover, Cramped, Critical position, Decoy, Defense, Deflect, Develop, Diagonal, Draw, Drawing line, Equalize, Exchange, Family fork, First-move advantage, File, Fish, Flag, Flank, FM, Focal point, Forced move, Fork, Fortress, Friendly game, Grandmaster, Handicap, Hanging, Hanging pawns, Hole, Initiative, Interference, Kick, Line, Loss, Main line, Match, Mate, Material, Move, Odds, Opposition, Pairing, Pawn, Piece, Pin, Plan, Post-mortem, Promotion, Push, Queen, Rank, Resign, Sacrifice, Score, Second, See-saw, Sharp, Simplification, Skewer, Solid, Sound, Space, Squeeze, Sudden death, Swindle, Table base, Tactics, Take back, Tempo, Text move, Threat, Time, Time control, Time delay, Toilet move, Tournament, Trap, Trébuchet, Triangulation, Undermining, Valve, Variant, Variation, White, Win, Wing, X-ray attack.
Let's have some fun!!! Could we assign the people on the island Chess piece counterparts? I wonder if it would work. Hehehe!!!
Kate's real role here is more than what we perceive it to be, I'm sure. Is she on the run from something or to/for something? From the very beginning the Marshal tells Jack not to trust a word Kate says. By the way, Danielle said a similar thing to Sayid about Henry Gale.
Kate said she was awake for the entire event of the plane going down, she befriends Jack and she knows her way around the island. Kate's involved in almost every trek as if she's there to keep her 'eye' on things. She delivers Aaron in the jungle, tells Claire this baby is "All of us/ours." Kate is also responsible for Aaron off the island. Which brings me to this question...(S4 finale) Who does Claire dare Kate not to bring back? We can assume she's speaking about Aaron, but could it mean someone else? Plus I can't ignore the hug between Kate and Penny in the S4 finale. It leads me to think these two possibly know each other. Is Kate a mole, hired hand or babysitter?
"Santa Rosa's" role: Yes it has a role and is serving a purpose here, but how? Research or programming/deprogramming subjects/patients? Is it being used to "teach" subjects into "learning" something? Monitoring case studies, perhaps? I feel "Santa Rosa" is a HUGE part of the story. Could they all be patients at "Santa Rosa"? What if they were? What if they are?! It sure would explain a hell of a lot. Things would actually make sense. While I'm on that, could this be where the whispers come in?
Coffee/Tea, stimulants, drugs, alcohol, Clonazapam (other drugs), injections, implants, visions, hypnosis/triggers, lucid dreaming and states of consciousness:
All of these are forms of being able to manipulate a person's thoughts, perception and memory. We learn in a Missing Pieces episode that Ethan conveniently brings Jack a mega suitcase filled with medicine and drugs, supposedly belonging to the hypochondriac "Sullivan." I fucking call Shenanigans! It seems to me they need to be kept drugged up or in a certain "state."
Pregnancy, fertility, conceiving, parentage, blood disorders, DNA, Gnome, metabolism, blood: Who is really related to whom? Who are biological parents to which offspring? Is there a blending of two halves, creating one? Is someone trying to create the perfect person or even a perfect solider? Are they breeding a damn Super Hero race complete with ones who can fly?! Maybe their own Justice League while we're at it! Perhaps will we find a bunch of mutant alien bug beings roaming around. Through all this I still wonder why Ben claimed Alex as is daughter. But was she biologically tied to him, or even human? If there is "creating" a hybrid of some sort, to me it doesn't matter how, what matters is, why?
I don't think it is all about a physical transformation; it seems that it also encompasses emotional, mental and even spiritual transformation.
Reminder: We're told pregnant women die on the island. Let's not forget that in "All the best cowboys have daddy issues" a pregnant woman dies on the O.R. table at the hands of Jack and Christian. But this bit of info may come in handy when trying to show examples of them never really leaving the "island"; more on that next time.
Special: Locke, Walt, and Hurley. Who else? What makes them special or different? Let's not forget Shannon was special too.
Tests, Experiments, Exercises and Challenges: Since early on in S1, I have felt they've done all this before, lived on the "Island" running through things. When they first heard the monster sound they were concerned but never freaked out. As a matter of fact, when Walt hears that sound for the first time he asks Michael if that's Vincent. They found their way around the "Island" pretty comfortably. All their needs were always met, food, drink, meds, suntan lotion, pregnancy tests, reading material, etc.. I gave more insight to this back when we saw the episode The Other 48 Days. For me, the answer was right there in the title. There was, (at least) another set of 48 days, confirming they have done all this before. But how many times? 10? In that same episode Sawyer recalls in his haze, leaving Michael behind.
Being there before; returning. Did they ever leave? Since early on in S1 I felt Michael was one who may be remembering his tie to the "Island" and its people. Maybe that's why he was so determined to leave. The rest of them don't remember their tie to the "Island."
Remember this dialogue in the Missing Pieces episode Tropical Depression:
MICHAEL to Arzt- "It's Ok. The raft is finished. We're getting out of here. We're going to bring back help."
ARZT- "You are! I know you are! I know you are! And I am going to be the first one on the beach waving 'hello' when you get there."
TIME: There are inconsistencies with "time" issues. Do you think there's "Time Travel"? Where is it?! Did Desmond really time travel? I think it's possible he could be having "Flashes" of blended/blurred images of real and manipulated memory in "Flashes". These could connect to altered states of consciousness. If that is the possibility then Desmond experienced that not only in Flashes before Your Eyes, but also in The Constant.
Again, an altered conscious mind can happen via: Lucid Dreams, False awakening, Dream within a Dream, Flash within a Flash, Déjà vu, Memory and a bit of withdrawal from a hallucinogenic drug, drugs, alcohol, psychedelic drugs, brain washing, machines/computers, hypnosis, and even meditation.
Is Desmond a Pilot or Co Pilot in any of this, anyway?
I know you're going to say..."But Karen, Ben asked/mentions the year to the hotel desk clerk" and it seemed more like he, in his Ben way, cutely confirmed the year, not questioned it. Time Travel or Not to Time Travel, that is the question.
Some questions and things to note:
*Triggers: Would include things like, plane parts, caskets, dolls, the drug plane, Virgin Mary statues, rings, watches, books, (running) water, people, places, words, songs, x-rays, Vincent and a bunch of other fun items. Hypnotic suggestion seemed to be what was going on in One of Us, when Juliet heads out to the jungle to retrieve the medical kit and Sayid and Sawyer follow her. She speaks to them as if she "telling them" what to think and they appear hypnotized to me.
*Did Claire give Aaron away or did Christian? Claire looked loopy like she did when Ethan took her to the medical station.
* How old are the survivors? I'm sure Richard isn't the only one who hasn't aged. Is he really "native"? Could he be a regular person/scientist benefiting from the properties of the "island" or the studies of life extension by other scientists or something else? Besides, he better share some of whatever he's taking with me.
* THREE: The number of baby cribs in Cabin Fever. Two blue blankets and One pink. So is that where Boone, Charlie and Libby come up? Jack mentions them in the press conference. Why does he pick those three names?
* Are cryogenics involved? I'm just asking!!
Important facts:
* WAKE UP! They're always being told to Wake up!
* Yes, THEY ARE BEING WATCHED!!
* What is real and what is not?
* Eye color changes.
* Penny's boat the "SEARCHER" has no port city on it.
* Sayid spent time in France yet couldn't understand Danielle's 16 year loop recording in French. Why?
* Desmond and Juliet on the island 3 years. Coincidence? HA!
* According to the Blast Door Map, The Medical Station was abandoned in 1985. So how is Claire in the medical station with Ethan?
According to Hanso, D.I. was canceled in 1987 (funding cut).
Shut down 10.28.84. The Purge- 12.19.1992
Other Blast Door Map dates/numbers: 04.08.00, 08.15.01, 01.06.03
Kelvin and Desmond in the hatch 9.22.04
These dates show that the tests/studies never really ended.
The following is important info that I investigated while researching episode notes and previous posts.
Vocabulary...and Research...and Tid Bits...
* Agartha: is a legendary city that is said to reside in the Earth's core. It is related to the Hollow Earth theory and is a popular subject in Esotericism.
* Lost Horizon: is a 1933 novel by English writer James Hilton. It is best remembered as the origin of Shangri-La, a fictional Utopian lamasery high in the mountains of Tibet. People live a very long time, speak and understand many languages. Familiar names from the story are Rutherford, Rock and Chang.
* Imaginary friends: are pretend characters often created by children. Imaginary friends perform a tutelary function when they are engaged by the child in play activity. Imaginary friends may exist for the child into adolescence and sometimes adulthood. Imaginary friends often have elaborate personalities and behaviors. Although they may seem very real to their creators, studies have shown that children understand that their imaginary friends are not real.
* Simulated reality: is the proposition that reality could be simulated perhaps by
computer simulation to a degree indistinguishable from "true reality. In its strongest form, the "simulation hypothesis" claims it is probable that we are actually living in such a simulation. This is different from the current, technologically achievable concept of virtual reality.
* Virtual reality: is easily distinguished from the experience of "true" reality; participants are never in doubt about the nature of what they experience. Simulated reality, by contrast, would be hard or impossible to distinguish from "true" reality.
* Psychology and parapsychology, an apparition is an anomalous, quasi-perceptual experience. The term "ghost" implies that some element of the human being survives death and, at least under certain circumstances, can make itself perceptible to living human beings.
* Laboratory: (lab)-A facility that provides controlled conditions in which scientific research, experiments and measurement may be performed. Scientific labs can be found in schools, universities, industry, government or military facilities, and even aboard ships and spacecraft.
* "Mind's eye:" refers to the human ability for visual perception, imagination, visualization, and memory or, in other words, one's ability to "see" things with the mind.
* "Third eye": is a metaphysical and esoteric concept referring in part to the ajna (brow) chakra in certain Eastern and Western spiritual traditions. It is also spoken of as the gate that leads within to inner realms and spaces of higher consciousness.
* The map is not the territory: is a remark by Alfred Korzybski, Korzybski's dictum ("The map is not the territory") is also cited as an underlying principle used in neuro-linguistic programming, where it is used to signify that individual people in fact do not in general have access to absolute knowledge of reality, but in fact only have access to a set of beliefs they have built up over time, about reality. So it is considered important to be aware that people's beliefs about reality and their awareness of things (the "map") are not reality itself or everything they could be aware of ("the territory").
* Neuro-linguistic programming: (usually shortened to NLP) is an interpersonal communication model and an alternative approach to psychotherapy.
* Imagination as a reality: The world as experienced is an interpretation of data arriving from the senses, as such it is perceived as real by contrast to most thoughts and imaginings. This difference is only one of degree and can be altered by several historic causes, namely changes to brain chemistry, hypnosis, altered states of consciousness, meditation, many hallucinogenic drugs, and electricity applied directly to specific parts of the brain. The difference between imagined and perceived real can be so imperceptible as to cause acute states of psychosis. Many mental illnesses can be attributed to this inability to distinguish between the sensed and the internally created worlds. Some cultures and traditions even view the apparently shared world as an illusion of the mind as with the Buddhist, Maya or go to the opposite extreme and accept the imagined and dreamed realms as of equal validity to the apparently shared world as the Australian Aborigines do with their concept of dream time.
* The Minka Bird is a creature featured in Aboriginal dream time stories. According to the Aboriginals, the sighting of the Minka Bird foretells certain death.
* Astral projection: (or astral travel) is an esoteric interpretation of an out-of-body experience achieved either awake or via lucid dreaming or deep meditation.
* Teleportation: is the movement of objects from one place to another, more or less instantaneously, without traveling through space. The concept has been widely used in science fiction. It should not be confused with quantum teleportation.
* Parapsychology: (Greek "alongside" + psychology) -study of ostensibly paranormal events including ESP, psycho kinesis, and survival of consciousness after death. Parapsychologists call these processes psi, a term intended to be descriptive without implying a mechanism. Parapsychology is a fringe science because it involves research that does not fit within standard theoretical models accepted by mainstream science. Para psychological research involves laboratory research and fieldwork, which is conducted at privately funded laboratories and some universities around the world. Experiments conducted by para psychologists have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of psycho kinesis, sensory-deprivation.
* Ganzfeld experiments: to test for ESP, and research trials conducted under contract to the United States government to investigate the possibility of remote viewing.
* Zener cards: cards used to conduct experiments for ESP, most often clairvoyance. Perceptual psychologist Karl Zener designed the cards in the early 1930s. There are just 5 different Zener cards: a hollow circle (one curve), a Greek cross (two lines), three vertical wavy lines (or "waves"), a hollow square (four lines), and a hollow five-pointed star. There are 25 cards in a pack, 5 of each design.
* The Fly: was a brig of 100 tons that sailed from Calcutta India on 14 May 1802 bound for Sydney, Australia. It was carrying a cargo of 4000 gallons of spirits and was commanded by John Black. It was never heard of again.
* Folie à deux: (literally, "a madness shared by two") is a rare psychiatric syndrome in which a symptom of psychosis (particularly a paranoid or delusional belief) is transmitted from one individual to another. The same syndrome shared by more than 2 people may be called folie à trois, folie à quatre, folie à famille , folie à plusieurs (madness of many)
* Bernard Trevisan: (Bernard of Treviso, Bernardus Trevisanus) refers to one or more Italian alchemists. These are often confused, or more accurately the name may refer to a shadowy figure or figures.
* Mahâbhûta: is Pali for the "Great Elements." The 4 Great Elements (Pali: cattâro mahâbhûtâni) are earth, water, fire and air. Mahâbhûta is generally synonymous with catudhâtu, which is Pâli for the "4 Elements." In early Buddhism the 4 Elements are a basis for understanding and for liberating oneself from suffering.
* A form constant: is one of several geometric patterns which are recurring, observed during hallucinations and altered states of consciousness.
* The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in 1785. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell whether they are being watched, thereby conveying what one architect has called the "sentiment of an invisible omniscience." Bentham has said this is obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example.
* Dharma: Teachings of Buddha. The Start of the 8 fold path.
* Bardo: a Tibetan word means "Intermediate State" also translated as "transitional state" or "in-between state.
Together "six Bardos" form a classification of states of consciousness into six broad types: The Bardo of This Life, Bardo of Meditation, Bardo of Dream, Bardo of Dying, Bardo of Dharmata, and the Bardo of Existence.
Any state of consciousness can form a type of "intermediate state", intermediate between other states of consciousness. One can consider any momentary state of consciousness a Bardo, since it lies between our past and future existences; it provides us with the opportunity to experience reality, which is always present but obscured by the projections and confusions that are due to our previous unskillful actions.
The Liberation Through Hearing During The Intermediate State or Bardo Thodol is a funerary text.
The Liberation Through Hearing During the Intermediate State also mentions three other Bardos: those of "life" (or ordinary waking consciousness), of "Dhyana" (meditation), and of "dream" (the dream state during normal sleep).
Let's have some fun. You may think the picture posted above is here for a test on optical illusion, and yes it can be used in that way. But I want to use it to show perception. We obtain information about the world around us through our sensory system. Our perception is shaped by sensory input combined with experience. But perception can be tricked.
The image in the picture is permanently fixed so we can't change the lines and shapes. But our minds will organize the lines and shapes into a picture with meaning "to us". It will be different for some as opposed to others.
It is fact that perception can change as emotions change. Perception alters what we people see into a "partial version" of reality, which ultimately corrupts the way people perceive the truth. When people view something with a preconceived idea about it they tend to take those preconceived ideas and see them whether or not they are there. This is because humans are unable to understand new information without the inherent bias of their previous knowledge. The extent of our own knowledge/experience creates our reality as much as the truth, because the human mind can only contemplate that which it has been exposed to. The Buddhists believe "Piercing the veil of illusion." This means that our minds are shaping sensory data and we have a choice as to how we shape it.
Go back and check out my other episode clues notes for lots of details and researched items.
With the few things I mention here, along with the discussion of perception and illusion, can that be a bit of what the "islanders" are experiencing? Combine that with all the other things noted, I.E. altered state of consciousness, medication, hypnosis, lucid dreaming. PLUS illusion, tricks, magic and razzle dazzle. Could this part of the story be telling us this is due to them being challenged/tested or taught with psychology and/or parapsychology all for the purpose of finding what you've lost?
It is possible that in all that confusion..."Up is down!"
Love to all who are "LOST" ™
Disclaimer:I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! Things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either. I hate spoilers! I stand clear of reading certain sites, as to not take me off my own research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Good! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues in bold.
April 12, 2008
SO IT BEGINS. MISSING PIECES 13.
Let's talk about LOST! Missing Pieces 13: So it Begins.
Point of view is from very low to the ground; walking through the jungle grass. {I hear what I think to be more human breathing sounds at first. There are also bird /insect/jungle sounds}
Then the panting sounds of a dog. {I think I see something, before the dog turns left to go toward the suitcase, there is a mass of gray/black straight ahead.}
The dog comes upon an open black suitcase with clothes spilled around it. The dog looks at it. There seems to be a trail of clothes. {For a second then we can hear the sound of machine/engine whizzing, and then the faint sound of woman's scream!}
Someone whistles specifically calling the dog. {You again hear the same exact machine/sound whiz- repeat/loop.}
"Christian" is standing there wearing a dark suit and both white {tennis} shoes.
"Christian"- "Come here. Come on. Come on. {Claps his hands together 2x to get the dogs attention} Come on. Good boy. Come on. Come here. Come here. Good boy. Yes."
{He squats down, holds the dogs, face/head in his hands so he can talk to the dog. The dog licks his face} "Hey. Listen. Yes. I need you to go find my son. He's over there in that bamboo forest. Unconscious. {"Christian" darts his eyes in the direction he wants the dog to go} I need you to go wake him up. OK? OK. Go on." {The dog seems to say OK. lol}
{He sends the dog on his way}
"Christian"- "He has work to do."
Eye opens. Heavy breathing. Point of view from the ground looking up to the trees. You hear birds/insects/jungle sounds, but no sounds of chaos due to a "crash". Jack hears something and looks to his left. A few seconds later the dog comes upon Jack. The dog runs past him.
GREAT MOBISODE!!! OMG!!!
I was jumping up and down! This Mobisode ROCKED! But I must tell you I was not surprised to see "Christian"!
Yes, we all know there have been times that my research and over analyzing things have been helpful and other times I'm sure certain researched items may not lead to anything… But here, with this being the last Mobisode, I was gonna get everything out of it that I could! I nit picked! So bear with me, Pleeeeeease!.....
Things to note…Questions to ask.
* I wonder if the gray/black mass we see for a second from the dog's p.o.v. is the monster or something or anything at all? I'm noting it because something caught my eye. Before the dog turns left to go toward the suitcase there is a mass of gray/black straight ahead. Is it is the monster? Is it Christian or connected to the monster? Or could it be connected to the dog? That's even if what I saw is really there, that is.
I listened to this Mobisode with my "listening device"so I can hear details in the background. I'm glad I did.
* The machine/engine whizzing sound by "Christian" was a little confusing to me. In that the sound was very distant. As I listened, that sound traveled from one side to the other, as if the sound had movement, like flying over or something. Although, it also sounded like it was looping. It could just be sounds of the plane parts from the distance. Could the scream be Shannon's scream? That would suck if I have to go and match up screams. But we don't see/hear Shannon scream until Jack arrives on the beach in the pilot episode.
But just like in the pilot episode there are no sounds of chaos or "crash" and "screaming" from Jack's perspective, and Jack is fairly close to the beach.
Either way the open suitcase, clothes, dog and Jack were already on the ground. In place!
* Point of view is important here! Perception!!!
* Breathing.
* Christian is both Dark and Light. {clothing/shoes}
* Tennis- The same concept as Ping Pong. The ball gets hit back and forth over and over. Game.
* The dog was happy/comfortable to see "Christian", and "Christian" not surprised to see the dog. So they must know each other.
* "Christian" sends the dog to wake him up. "Christian" is very well aware of the condition of his son. He's not worried that he's hurt because he already knows he's not. He's unconscious/sleeping.
* How many children does "Christian" have? Why doesn't he care about waking up his pregnant daughter, Claire?
* Point of view from the ground a couple of times, via the '"dog" and Jack. Maybe it's a clue telling us that they were always on the ground. But what the hell do I know?!
* P.O.V. up to the trees from Jack, again, the trees aren't broken or disturbed.
* Jack woke up before the dog got to him. The dog ran by him. Was the dog supposed to wake up Jack and Jack just woke up before the dog had a chance? Or is the dog on his way to wake up someone else?
Vocabulary and Research...
In Chinese culture, the bamboo, plum blossom, orchid, and chrysanthemum (usually, méi lán zhú are collectively referred to as the Four Noble Ones. These 4 plants also represent the 4 seasons and, in Confucian ideology, 4 aspects of the junzi "prince" or "noble one"). The pine tree, the bamboo, and the plum blossom (s--ng zhú méi are also admired for their perseverance under harsh conditions, and are together known as the "3 Friends in Winter". Several Asian cultures, including that of the Andaman Islands, believe that humanity emerged from a bamboo stem.
In psychology and the cognitive sciences, perception is the process of acquiring, interpreting, selecting, and organizing sensory information. It is a task far more complex than was imagined.
The most important thing here is the visual of "Christian" being there, knowing the "dog" and knowing everything that was going on. This "action" we see is before we're even introduced to Jack. So, is that enough proof to tell us this was all part of a planned event and "Christian" is privy to all of it? Or is all we're seeing here one big giant ghost story?
"Christian didn't look like a ghost and the dog wasn't afraid of "Christian". They we able to make physical contact with each other. And no, I'm not an expert in the science of Ghost studies. But let's also remember the casket/coffin Jack found in the caves was empty. Did he get up and walk out of there? Shouldn't his body still be in or near the coffin?
"Christian" on the "Island". Yep! Can "Christian" morph or transform? Is he, in any form, real/or something else, where does he go or hide?
I wrote in my notes for Par Avion that Claire was told her father died when she was two. Well obviously, his wasn't really dead.
This story is filled with people appearing or assumed dead but really are not dead. With that said…If this is really Christian we see here and not a ghost, then as I've stated before the possibility is he wasn't dead at the time of the "crash" and Flashes aren't all reality and are not in time order. Now, throw a potential connection to the monster here, or this being a "Christian" double, then that changes things yet again.
No matter what I was not surprised to see "Christian" on the "Island".
I guess we'll have to wait and see if we're dealing with the "dead" or a powerful manipulative game playing man who is involved in some global secret or something else all together.
All I can say is, I can't friggin wait until Thursday!!!
ROCK ON! WooooooooooHoooooooooo!!!!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted on MySpace Post 1/28/08
abc.com video.
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right. The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers and I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
Point of view is from very low to the ground; walking through the jungle grass. {I hear what I think to be more human breathing sounds at first. There are also bird /insect/jungle sounds}
Then the panting sounds of a dog. {I think I see something, before the dog turns left to go toward the suitcase, there is a mass of gray/black straight ahead.}
The dog comes upon an open black suitcase with clothes spilled around it. The dog looks at it. There seems to be a trail of clothes. {For a second then we can hear the sound of machine/engine whizzing, and then the faint sound of woman's scream!}
Someone whistles specifically calling the dog. {You again hear the same exact machine/sound whiz- repeat/loop.}
"Christian" is standing there wearing a dark suit and both white {tennis} shoes.
"Christian"- "Come here. Come on. Come on. {Claps his hands together 2x to get the dogs attention} Come on. Good boy. Come on. Come here. Come here. Good boy. Yes."
{He squats down, holds the dogs, face/head in his hands so he can talk to the dog. The dog licks his face} "Hey. Listen. Yes. I need you to go find my son. He's over there in that bamboo forest. Unconscious. {"Christian" darts his eyes in the direction he wants the dog to go} I need you to go wake him up. OK? OK. Go on." {The dog seems to say OK. lol}
{He sends the dog on his way}
"Christian"- "He has work to do."
Eye opens. Heavy breathing. Point of view from the ground looking up to the trees. You hear birds/insects/jungle sounds, but no sounds of chaos due to a "crash". Jack hears something and looks to his left. A few seconds later the dog comes upon Jack. The dog runs past him.
GREAT MOBISODE!!! OMG!!!
I was jumping up and down! This Mobisode ROCKED! But I must tell you I was not surprised to see "Christian"!
Yes, we all know there have been times that my research and over analyzing things have been helpful and other times I'm sure certain researched items may not lead to anything… But here, with this being the last Mobisode, I was gonna get everything out of it that I could! I nit picked! So bear with me, Pleeeeeease!.....
Things to note…Questions to ask.
* I wonder if the gray/black mass we see for a second from the dog's p.o.v. is the monster or something or anything at all? I'm noting it because something caught my eye. Before the dog turns left to go toward the suitcase there is a mass of gray/black straight ahead. Is it is the monster? Is it Christian or connected to the monster? Or could it be connected to the dog? That's even if what I saw is really there, that is.
I listened to this Mobisode with my "listening device"so I can hear details in the background. I'm glad I did.
* The machine/engine whizzing sound by "Christian" was a little confusing to me. In that the sound was very distant. As I listened, that sound traveled from one side to the other, as if the sound had movement, like flying over or something. Although, it also sounded like it was looping. It could just be sounds of the plane parts from the distance. Could the scream be Shannon's scream? That would suck if I have to go and match up screams. But we don't see/hear Shannon scream until Jack arrives on the beach in the pilot episode.
But just like in the pilot episode there are no sounds of chaos or "crash" and "screaming" from Jack's perspective, and Jack is fairly close to the beach.
Either way the open suitcase, clothes, dog and Jack were already on the ground. In place!
* Point of view is important here! Perception!!!
* Breathing.
* Christian is both Dark and Light. {clothing/shoes}
* Tennis- The same concept as Ping Pong. The ball gets hit back and forth over and over. Game.
* The dog was happy/comfortable to see "Christian", and "Christian" not surprised to see the dog. So they must know each other.
* "Christian" sends the dog to wake him up. "Christian" is very well aware of the condition of his son. He's not worried that he's hurt because he already knows he's not. He's unconscious/sleeping.
* How many children does "Christian" have? Why doesn't he care about waking up his pregnant daughter, Claire?
* Point of view from the ground a couple of times, via the '"dog" and Jack. Maybe it's a clue telling us that they were always on the ground. But what the hell do I know?!
* P.O.V. up to the trees from Jack, again, the trees aren't broken or disturbed.
* Jack woke up before the dog got to him. The dog ran by him. Was the dog supposed to wake up Jack and Jack just woke up before the dog had a chance? Or is the dog on his way to wake up someone else?
Vocabulary and Research...
In Chinese culture, the bamboo, plum blossom, orchid, and chrysanthemum (usually, méi lán zhú are collectively referred to as the Four Noble Ones. These 4 plants also represent the 4 seasons and, in Confucian ideology, 4 aspects of the junzi "prince" or "noble one"). The pine tree, the bamboo, and the plum blossom (s--ng zhú méi are also admired for their perseverance under harsh conditions, and are together known as the "3 Friends in Winter". Several Asian cultures, including that of the Andaman Islands, believe that humanity emerged from a bamboo stem.
In psychology and the cognitive sciences, perception is the process of acquiring, interpreting, selecting, and organizing sensory information. It is a task far more complex than was imagined.
The most important thing here is the visual of "Christian" being there, knowing the "dog" and knowing everything that was going on. This "action" we see is before we're even introduced to Jack. So, is that enough proof to tell us this was all part of a planned event and "Christian" is privy to all of it? Or is all we're seeing here one big giant ghost story?
"Christian didn't look like a ghost and the dog wasn't afraid of "Christian". They we able to make physical contact with each other. And no, I'm not an expert in the science of Ghost studies. But let's also remember the casket/coffin Jack found in the caves was empty. Did he get up and walk out of there? Shouldn't his body still be in or near the coffin?
"Christian" on the "Island". Yep! Can "Christian" morph or transform? Is he, in any form, real/or something else, where does he go or hide?
I wrote in my notes for Par Avion that Claire was told her father died when she was two. Well obviously, his wasn't really dead.
This story is filled with people appearing or assumed dead but really are not dead. With that said…If this is really Christian we see here and not a ghost, then as I've stated before the possibility is he wasn't dead at the time of the "crash" and Flashes aren't all reality and are not in time order. Now, throw a potential connection to the monster here, or this being a "Christian" double, then that changes things yet again.
No matter what I was not surprised to see "Christian" on the "Island".
I guess we'll have to wait and see if we're dealing with the "dead" or a powerful manipulative game playing man who is involved in some global secret or something else all together.
All I can say is, I can't friggin wait until Thursday!!!
ROCK ON! WooooooooooHoooooooooo!!!!
Love to all who are "LOST"™
Posted on MySpace Post 1/28/08
abc.com video.
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right. The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers and I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
April 11, 2008
JACK MEET ETHAN. ETHAN? MISSING PIECES 10.
Let's talk about LOST! Missing Pieces 10: Jack Meet Ethan?
{Jack is going through suitcases. Black and White garments. His back is to us. Jack's hair is longer that the original time period. Ethan walks up; wearing his Wisconsin sweatshirt}
ETHAN- "You're the Doctor, right?
JACK- "Yeah... That's me."
ETHAN- "Well, I heard you were rounding up the medicine, so I figured... you might want this."
{He shows Jack a suitcase filled with meds. Note that there are medicine bottles there that must have already been gathered.}
JACK- "Whew."
ETHAN- "HAHAHA. Jackpot, right? Guy must've been a hypochondriac or something."
JACK- "Where'd you find this?"
ETHAN- "In the jungle. I'm Ethan, by the way"
{They shake hands.}
JACK- "Jack."
ETHAN- "Thank you, Jack."
JACK- "For what?"
ETHAN- "Getting all this together, having a little perspective, you know, thinking long term. Most of the others still think we're going to get rescued any time now."
JACK- "And you think I don't?"
ETHAN- "No, I think you're smart. And I think you're looking at that girl, {We see pregnant Claire} knowing you might actually have to deliver that baby here. I know that's what I'm thinking."
JACK- "Well, it's nice to know I'm not alone."
ETHAN- {Laughs} "You're definitely not alone."
JACK- "If she does go into labor, at least I know I've got an assistant. {Ethan looks at him and looks away.} I'm sorry, I didn't mean ta..."
ETHAN- "It's all right, don't worry about it. Anyway, I'm glad the meds help."
JACK- "Yeah. Thank you."
ETHAN- "You're welcome."
{Ethan gets up to leave.}
ETHAN- "Jack, um, my wife died in childbirth. And our, uh, our baby didn't make it either. {Jack just looks at him not saying anything.} Well, let's hope we're both wrong and the rescue boats are on their way right now."
JACK- " Let's hope."
{Jack watches Ethan walk away.}
Great Mobisode!
My first note to paper was the title!!!
* How convenient is it that Ethan, an "Other" finds a suitcase filled with all kinds of meds? WOW!! Yeah, No fucking coincidence! The Other's way of getting "drugs" to the camp perhaps?! Are they hoping there will be Losties who "need" it? HA! I wonder what those meds really contain?!
* Ethan's comment about "The guy must have been a hypochondriac or something." Is Ethan already privy to Sullivan?
* Ethan commends Jack on organizing things at the camp; getting people to pull together so they can "live together". Ethan knows there will be "no" rescue. Does Jack also know that fact somewhere deep in his memory or subconscious? No rescue means they have to live together on the "Island". Of course there will be no rescue. They are all already home...They are where their supposed to be.
* Jack is not ALONE! They are all in it together.
* Ethan knows the baby will be delivered on the "Island" and Jack's thinking the same thing. Jack assumes Ethan will help deliver Claire's baby. Does Jack know Ethan is a doctor? Does Jack remember something? Could Ethan be Jack's assistant in some way?
* Kate ultimately delivers the baby.
* Ethan sharing his bit about losing his wife and child in childbirth, is that true? If it is, when did that happen? Months ago? Years ago? 100 years ago? Never? Maybe he still has a wife and she's there.
So, Ethan's job was to mix in with the survivors, make lists for Ben and it appears to me, to be sure this case of meds/drugs gets into the camp and into the Losties. Mission complete! Or is it?...
Could this be from another time?
Words of the day...
Perspective, in the context of vision and visual perception, is the way in which objects appear to the eye based on their spatial attributes, or their dimensions and the position of the eye relative to the objects.
Forced perspective can used to deliberately misrepresent an object's size, making something appear larger or smaller than it really is. These are forms of optical illusions.
A vanishing point is a point in a perspective drawing to which parallel lines appear to converge.
Aerial perspective or atmospheric perspective is the effect on the appearance of an object by the atmosphere between it and a viewer (or the technique of depicting this effect in a work of art, such as a landscape painting). As the distance between an object and a viewer increases, the contrast between the object and its background decreases.
Perspective in theory of cognition is the choice of a context or a reference (or the result of this choice) from which to sense, categorize, measure, or codify experience, cohesively forming a coherent belief, typically for comparing with another. One may further recognize a number of subtly distinctive meanings, close to those of paradigm, point of view, reality tunnel, umwelt, or weltanschauung.
To choose a perspective is to choose a value system and, unavoidably, an associated belief system. When we look at a human perspective, it is a more social value system and its associated beliefs.
Perspective in pharmacoeconomics refers to the economic vantage point that is being taken in a pharmacoeconomics. 5 general perspectives that are often cited in pharmacoeconomics include: institutional, third party, patient, governmental and societal.
In geometry, two triangles are perspective (or homologic) if, when the sides of each triangle are extended, they meet in three collinear points. The line which goes through the three points is known as the perspectrix. The triangles are said to be perspective from the line.
* The origin of the word jackpot comes from a version of draw poker where a pair of jacks or better are needed to open the "pot" to start betting.
- Jackpot is the name of an Autobot character from the Transformers universe.
- Jackpot is a fictional comic book character owned by Marvel Comics. Jackpot's first appearance was in the Free Comic Book Day Spider-Man Special. This is a female character.
- Jackpot may also refer to: A prize in a game of chance, often one that increases over time, as in progressive jackpots.
* Wisconsin. A state in the United States. It's name may come from an ancient Ojibwe word, Miskwasiniing, meaning "Red-stone place," and was recorded as Ouisconsin by the French. Wisconsin's economy was originally based on farming (especially dairy), mining and lumbering.
Love to all who are "LOST" ™
Posted on MySpace 1/11/08
abc.com video.
Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
{Jack is going through suitcases. Black and White garments. His back is to us. Jack's hair is longer that the original time period. Ethan walks up; wearing his Wisconsin sweatshirt}
ETHAN- "You're the Doctor, right?
JACK- "Yeah... That's me."
ETHAN- "Well, I heard you were rounding up the medicine, so I figured... you might want this."
{He shows Jack a suitcase filled with meds. Note that there are medicine bottles there that must have already been gathered.}
JACK- "Whew."
ETHAN- "HAHAHA. Jackpot, right? Guy must've been a hypochondriac or something."
JACK- "Where'd you find this?"
ETHAN- "In the jungle. I'm Ethan, by the way"
{They shake hands.}
JACK- "Jack."
ETHAN- "Thank you, Jack."
JACK- "For what?"
ETHAN- "Getting all this together, having a little perspective, you know, thinking long term. Most of the others still think we're going to get rescued any time now."
JACK- "And you think I don't?"
ETHAN- "No, I think you're smart. And I think you're looking at that girl, {We see pregnant Claire} knowing you might actually have to deliver that baby here. I know that's what I'm thinking."
JACK- "Well, it's nice to know I'm not alone."
ETHAN- {Laughs} "You're definitely not alone."
JACK- "If she does go into labor, at least I know I've got an assistant. {Ethan looks at him and looks away.} I'm sorry, I didn't mean ta..."
ETHAN- "It's all right, don't worry about it. Anyway, I'm glad the meds help."
JACK- "Yeah. Thank you."
ETHAN- "You're welcome."
{Ethan gets up to leave.}
ETHAN- "Jack, um, my wife died in childbirth. And our, uh, our baby didn't make it either. {Jack just looks at him not saying anything.} Well, let's hope we're both wrong and the rescue boats are on their way right now."
JACK- " Let's hope."
{Jack watches Ethan walk away.}
Great Mobisode!
My first note to paper was the title!!!
* How convenient is it that Ethan, an "Other" finds a suitcase filled with all kinds of meds? WOW!! Yeah, No fucking coincidence! The Other's way of getting "drugs" to the camp perhaps?! Are they hoping there will be Losties who "need" it? HA! I wonder what those meds really contain?!
* Ethan's comment about "The guy must have been a hypochondriac or something." Is Ethan already privy to Sullivan?
* Ethan commends Jack on organizing things at the camp; getting people to pull together so they can "live together". Ethan knows there will be "no" rescue. Does Jack also know that fact somewhere deep in his memory or subconscious? No rescue means they have to live together on the "Island". Of course there will be no rescue. They are all already home...They are where their supposed to be.
* Jack is not ALONE! They are all in it together.
* Ethan knows the baby will be delivered on the "Island" and Jack's thinking the same thing. Jack assumes Ethan will help deliver Claire's baby. Does Jack know Ethan is a doctor? Does Jack remember something? Could Ethan be Jack's assistant in some way?
* Kate ultimately delivers the baby.
* Ethan sharing his bit about losing his wife and child in childbirth, is that true? If it is, when did that happen? Months ago? Years ago? 100 years ago? Never? Maybe he still has a wife and she's there.
So, Ethan's job was to mix in with the survivors, make lists for Ben and it appears to me, to be sure this case of meds/drugs gets into the camp and into the Losties. Mission complete! Or is it?...
Could this be from another time?
Words of the day...
Perspective, in the context of vision and visual perception, is the way in which objects appear to the eye based on their spatial attributes, or their dimensions and the position of the eye relative to the objects.
Forced perspective can used to deliberately misrepresent an object's size, making something appear larger or smaller than it really is. These are forms of optical illusions.
A vanishing point is a point in a perspective drawing to which parallel lines appear to converge.
Aerial perspective or atmospheric perspective is the effect on the appearance of an object by the atmosphere between it and a viewer (or the technique of depicting this effect in a work of art, such as a landscape painting). As the distance between an object and a viewer increases, the contrast between the object and its background decreases.
Perspective in theory of cognition is the choice of a context or a reference (or the result of this choice) from which to sense, categorize, measure, or codify experience, cohesively forming a coherent belief, typically for comparing with another. One may further recognize a number of subtly distinctive meanings, close to those of paradigm, point of view, reality tunnel, umwelt, or weltanschauung.
To choose a perspective is to choose a value system and, unavoidably, an associated belief system. When we look at a human perspective, it is a more social value system and its associated beliefs.
Perspective in pharmacoeconomics refers to the economic vantage point that is being taken in a pharmacoeconomics. 5 general perspectives that are often cited in pharmacoeconomics include: institutional, third party, patient, governmental and societal.
In geometry, two triangles are perspective (or homologic) if, when the sides of each triangle are extended, they meet in three collinear points. The line which goes through the three points is known as the perspectrix. The triangles are said to be perspective from the line.
* The origin of the word jackpot comes from a version of draw poker where a pair of jacks or better are needed to open the "pot" to start betting.
- Jackpot is the name of an Autobot character from the Transformers universe.
- Jackpot is a fictional comic book character owned by Marvel Comics. Jackpot's first appearance was in the Free Comic Book Day Spider-Man Special. This is a female character.
- Jackpot may also refer to: A prize in a game of chance, often one that increases over time, as in progressive jackpots.
* Wisconsin. A state in the United States. It's name may come from an ancient Ojibwe word, Miskwasiniing, meaning "Red-stone place," and was recorded as Ouisconsin by the French. Wisconsin's economy was originally based on farming (especially dairy), mining and lumbering.
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Disclaimer: I never claim to know everything about the show and my thoughts by no means make me right! The things I share here are my views and/or opinions. I don't claim to catch every single detail either! You all know I hate spoilers! And I stand clear of reading certain sites as to not take me off my own course of research. The one thing I don't need to do here is rehash all of the obvious clues from an episode, we all know what they are. Understood? Good! Let the fun begin! I'll only note things that I know come up as clues later, but need to be noted when they first show up and things I find that will be of importance! It will get very exciting as we progress into the story.
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